Newcastle Banter Archive May 06 2013

06 May 2013 22:02:38
I think sunderland will lose against southampton, we'll get a narrow win against QPR, wigan will beat swansea, we'll lose or draw to arsenal sunderland will lose to spurs, wigan will lose to arsenal, and beat villa. Sunderland to go down I think

Sunderland just outplayed stoke with only ten men.

If they keep 11 players on the pitch and the crowd behind them roaring them on like against stoke they will beat Southampton I'm afraid.

Sunderland will finish on 41 points.

I see Norwich going down with qpr & reading. Wigan will once again escape the clutches of relegation & I think Sunderland is safe (darn!). I got to believe well get something against qpr while I don't see Norwich picking up anything

The worst team will go down the with no spirt of fight and playing with complacency. Ring any bells you don't have to look very far.
Ashley Llambias (how he is in football I will never know) and AP with a track record of relegation will ensure a trip to Boro next season.

Wonderland and Wigan will still be in the PL next year as for us, weekend at Blackpool anyone?

Don't even try to defend a VERY terrible team.
The players don't care, not one of them looks in shape, they have had a bad year all year.

The only reason we signed any one in Jan was due to the fact that they all played in France and had to pay 70% tax on everything that they made. So why not come to Newcastle we'll pay you more.

They only came here for the money not because they wanted to come, not because the wanted to play for the club, and not because their friends were here too.

You can see it now, not one of them cares if we stay up or drop.

HBA will be at PSG when the seasons over
Cabaye will be going to PSG Arsenal Tottenham or Man U
Colo returning home
Cisse will be heading back to Germany

The rest of the team will stay, only reason is no one wants terrible players with no passion for their team.

Oh my God! You're right and you've finally convinced me. I'm forgetting 40 years of being a mag and supporting someone else from next year. Come on Shrewsbury!

06 May 2013 19:03:53
Repost on team:
4-2-3-1
GK ELLIOT
DR DEBUCHY
DCR TAYLOR
DCL COLOCCINI
DL M'BIWA
DMR JONAS
DML TIOTE
RW BEN ARFA
AM CABAYE
LW GOUFFRAN
STC CISSE

Almost like last years six game winning streak but better, need to beat QPR so hopefully this will be enough.

06 May 2013 15:48:04
I just want to get this off my chest (This is considering we do stay up) A lot of people may completely miss the point on this or disagree with me or whatever, but I hope that some people do understand what I am going to say.

I was just watching live ford football special and they were analysing newcastles play and how they've gone wrong. Like for example in the derby, we had about 5 players in front of the ball, then all we had defending was our back four who were incredibly deep and tiote stranded in midfield and that's how we conceded the second goal. And they were talking about how direct we were, literally just launching it into the box with only 2 men inside the box and three around the edge, so all the opposition had to do was just clear it into the midfield, because there was such a big gap between the defence and midfield. Then they showed the game where we beat spurs 2-1, and in the first half, we were on the attack and the ball was by spurs's own corner flag, then assou ekotto cleared it out to the right wing where lennon was just alone, no one within 30 yards and he just had to run at the back 4 with bale and sigurdsson in support. Just as they cleared it to lennon they put the camera on pardew, and he was like "Oh my god, why aren't my defence pushing up, why aren't my midfielders sticking to their positions" he basically throw his arm across himself as if he was throwing a scrunched up bit of paper in the bin. Then it showed simpson on the ball in our own half, spurs pressing high up the pitch, and no one in support, there wasn't enough communication (and maybe its because we have a lot of french speakers, who can't really speak english properly) Ba and cisse were stranded up front with no support from the wide men, in fact ben arfa wasn't even playing right mid, he was having to take up all sorts of positions to create opportunities.

What I think the problem has been this season is not pardew, its the team not working together properly, not communicating properly, not playing properly. I can guarantee you pardew never gives them the tactic of hoof it up the field. Ba even came out and said "We always work mostly on possession in training" Players like williamson, simpson, ferguson, don't fit in to a possession playing team, they panic and just clear it or just hoof it without looking up.

Ok yes pardew has obviously struggled to find the right tactic and formation etc. this season, but that's because he hasn't been given those signings he wanted who were in his plans, so basically he probably had to draw up a new one from scratch with players like best, lovenkrands, guthrie all gone. A new plan that would be able to cope with europa league, a plan that just wasn't possible with the amount of injuries we picked up and the lack of fitness. I really don't think pardew is that stupid to say that we have a small team but still give them orders to play hoofball. There's obviously something not right in the coaching staff, he's already said he wants a new coach for whatever reason. But believe me, you cannot be an average or poor manager if you have led a team like newcastle who were average in 2011 to a fifth place finish in the premier league and come back from 4-0 down against arsenal to draw 4-4, to develop players like ben arfa, Ba, Krul, Santon, tiote into better players or top class players, to get us playing some great, silky football that we went on a 6 game winning run. this season was because of ashley and llambias they ruined it in the summer as a result we could not prepare properly and had to rush it and draw up a completely new plan that was probs not even a proper plan.

By december, that will be the time to judge pardew. in the summer, players like sissoko, mbiwa, haidara, debuchy and gouffran will be able to settle in easier, and speak a bit more english, and Pardew can draw up a whole new plan with little changes, have the support of mike ashley and derek llambias in the financial areas and try and lead us to a top 8, because we currently do have the squad to do that, (its just not performing up to standards)

Just give Pardew another chance people, I know that you struggle to find newcastle fans who still think pardew is the right man but we all loved him last season, and there's no reason why he can't lead us to another high flying finish next season with a fresh start.
But if we are relegated then that will obviously be the end of pardews newcastle career, but i'm confident we won't be.

Well said Alan

To much to read.

I agree mate, but at the moment we just need to focus on staying up

Surely if the teams not working together then it's Pardews job to pick a team that can work together.

Well with all the injuries he hasn't been able to pick a team that can play together very much.

If he had a pair and demanded signings in the Summer instead of just being a yes man then the injuries wouldn't of had such an affect on us.

If we were struggling because of injuries why play our first team in the Europa league? The league should be a priority and then cup competitions.

You don't know that he didn't demand more signings do you? The media don't pick up everything from behind closed doors!

All he had to do is say we need three or four good signings when being interviewed to put pressure on Ashley.
Also didn't Pardew say our squad was strong enough at the start of the season? Yet we needed a CB, RB and a striker/winger.

Even last year we played like the away side at home were lucky to get the 1st goal in games, still think we've had more good luck this season than bad. don't like starting games on back foot we are nufc ffs. pardew is clueless sack him sack him now. del

06 May 2013 14:21:06
"Martinez is very overrated. Everybody talks about his yearly saving act but who takes them down to the relegation zone in the first place?"

At the weekend Wigans most expensive player cost just £3m whereas we had Colo (9m), Cisse (9m), Yanga Mbiwa (6-7m), HBA (5.7m), Cabaye (4.7m), Tiote (3.5m) and a unused sub in Anita who cost 6.5m and yet we are three points above them.

Martinez does wonders with what he gets and gets his teams playing good football. Wigan are always going to struggle as they usually have to sell their best players for example over the last few seasons Valencia, Baines, Moses, N'zogbia and Palacios.

Martinez would be a massive improvement on Pardew but can't see Pardew leaving anytime soon.

Pardew can still do what he did last season even if we finish a few places below 5th. He'll have the summer to rebuild our team, get rid of all deadwood and redo tactics. Surely you can't expect january signings to settle in within a few weeks? Surely you can't expect pardew to give a team with some fresh faces to go out and play great football? Have faith man.

It not about new signings settling, its the simple fact that Pardew has zero tactics and plays people out of position constantly. Add to the fact he simple won't drop Jonas.

I agree get rid of dead wood starting with ashley, pardew and lambias

06 May 2013 09:57:42
Right all I think we need is a minimum of two points to stay up. Wigan need a minimum of 5 points. Sunderland need a minimum of 4 points.
If we lose to qpr then we are almost down. If we draw, we'll be playing with fire (which we already are) and if we win then we will be safe. If we draw 1 and lose 1 then we will have to hugely rely on sunderland and wigan. If we draw both then we won't have to rely on them as much.
I think we'll beat qpr 1-0 then lose 2-0 to arsenal. 3pts for Newcastle
Stoke will come to sunderland fired up, in an aggressive mentality and I think they'll either draw or beat them 2-1. Then I think it will be the same situation for southampton. Southampton will either hammer sunderland or draw. Then bale will destroy them. 2pts for sunderland.
Wigan will beat swansea, win against villa and lose to arsenal 6pts for wigan.
I fancy sunderland to crumble and go down.
18th sunderland 39pts
17th wigan 41pts
16th Newcastle 41pts (gd)

Never the less, if we do stay up and ashley sticks with pardew, then I have every faith and confidence in pardew to rebuild, get some young decent and top class players in, give us a fresh start, with some plans over the summer for exciting and sexy football like last season, a plan a and b. If pardew can lead us to fifth then there's no reason why he can't do it again, even if it is still a 6th, 7th, 8th place finish it will be a huge achievement. Moyes had a great first season with Everton but then finished 17th. So he rebuilded and has turned everton into a top 8 club.

So let's get behind the team lads and we can stay up and have a fresh start. In pardew I trust (unless there are some people who still have faith with me)

Geordie Moses-HTL

100% agree

In your dreams, when! we beat stoke tonight your in the bottom tommorrow if wigan get a result, and if you do go into ythe bottom
you will not get out LOL, does your post make you feel better don't forget a draw puts us above you's as well you are fav do go down and there's no way any of you can say you are not, you won't get a result against QPR and defo nowt of Arsenal the toon are going doon FTM

How do you work out that Newcastle need 2 pts and sunderland 4 if Newcastle do get their 2 pts then by goal difference sunderland would only need 3 learn your sums young man learn your sums

To last post

its just assuming all the different things that could happen really mate.

geordie moses

we will stay up, can't wait for stoke to hammer sunderland

Every week Geordie you predict everything wrong, bless you, look forward to your next post.