Newcastle Banter Archive April 30 2013

30 Apr 2013 21:33:52
ed have we been in the bottom 3 this season, I don't think we have but not sure {Ed001's Note - not that I can remember off the top of my head.}

We have not been in the bottom three at all this season.

30 Apr 2013 17:53:13
Colo ment to be back for west ham. I would put:

Yanga/colo/saylor/Haidara
Cabaye/tiote/sissoko
Arfa/cisse/goofy

Think mr. clueless will pick jonas though

Good side. But your right Jonas will play he must have something on Pardew as he wouldn't get a game for Whitley Bay.

We need 442 v West Ham, Cisse and Goofy up front with Benny supplying.

I'd rather have Anita in instead of Sissoko. Sissoko has kind of gone off the boil, at least Anita will get on the ball and pass.

30 Apr 2013 12:15:18
it looks like pardew will be staying in the summer, just read an article that ashley will spend BIG despite Rafa Benitez apparently being lined up as pardew's replacement. I personally think we should make an age limit of 25. I'm quite inspired how aston villa are putting faith in their inexperienced youth to keep them up, it brings passion, motivation and confidence and most importantly ambition.
I'd like to see us snap a few players up from villa if they go down or they just survive. Benteke will probs be too expensive, but i'd like to see moves for Lowton, Sylla and Weimann. Would like to see Sakho, Zouma/Okore as well. Remy or Aubameyang would be nice but we'll probs annoyingly go for carroll.

Inspired by Villa?

We are the 20th richest club in the world and have the 3rd biggest stadium in all of English league football.

I am not sure I would feel inspired by skint Villa's methods, it's not like Villa have had a choice, they have had to play young players because they will not shell out.

If you want us to be like Villa then that aim have been achieved, we have the same amount of points.

Yeah we are a rich club big stadium but at the end of the day I can't see anything to brag about we haven't won a thing for over 58 years

Passion, motivation and ambition. Have you seen Villa this season?

Passion-To stay up
Motivation-to win and thrash the 6-1.
ambition-To improve their youth system, to have a fresh young team.

You obviously only watched villa on Monday night and decided they are a good team, I've watched then a few times this season and they are awful. That's why they are on the same amount of points as us. 2 poor teams.

They were a good team on the night.

30 Apr 2013 11:36:56
There are a lot of rumours of an arguement between certain players and the coaching staff. Without knowing the true facts, journalists seem to have blamed the French contingent, and have also inexplicably accused the foriegn players for our terrible season, culminating in their so called lack of fight during the Liverpool game.

There will be a lot of fans that probably share the same views. But let's not let facts get in the way of an excuse for the press, and doom mongers to stick the boot in.

Yes we are in a seriously dangerous position, and yes we have performed dreadfully in the past 2 games. Who takes the blame? Everyone needs to take responsibility, but the manager is the focal point of the club and is paid to make the big decisions.

As a counter arguement to those blaming the foriegn players, I would suggest that where you are from has no influence on your ability to play the game. let's get one thing straight, on the whole English/British football is in the dark ages when it comes to coaching, training, behaviour, and generally being professional.
When was the last time the English game produced a trully world class player who was consistently at the top of the game? Shearer? Rooney? Gerrard? Lampard? Beckham? Whilst all very good players, would they have made a team made up of the best players in the world? Maybe, but probably not. let's not make any bones about it, homegrown players are of a significantly lower standard in both technique, and reading of the game. They are taught that power and aggression are the main components to being a player. Forget control, passing, and most importantly reading the game. So let's not make the arguement that if we had a team consisting of British players we would be in a better position than we are currently. We have British players, and the majority are sub-standard.

Our problem is not a lack of fight, or talent. Our problem lies squarely with team selections and tactics. We are playing players out of position, and expecting them to play as well as a specialist in that area. We are continually set up as a team to not concede. Fine, as long as you have the players, or experience to do so. A defense consisting of 4 players that only have a handful of games in this league is not experienced enough to deal with the pressure heaped on them. Playing out of form players, players that have not shown anything all season. Isolating your only real goal threat, and despite being injured and not great in the air, hit long balls at him all day. The problem is not the foreign contingent, the problem is actually homegrown in England. Born in London, played for Reading, Charlton, Crystal Palace, managed heavy weight teams such as Southampton, Reading, West Ham. Alan Pardew.

Col

I certainly don't blame the foreign players. If anything they have certainly saved us from certain relegation. The blame is down to Pardew constantly picking his favourites and playing people out of position.

Sissoko = Box to box power house midfielder, best suited to playing deep and breaking forward.
Currently being played as a right winger.
Cabaye = Midfielder that has a good range of passing, and can hit a ball, best suited to playing in advanced areas.
Currently being played as a defensive midfielder.
Goufran = Striker/Forward
Currently being played on the wing, and being asked to track back whenever we don't have the ball.
Cisse = Goal poacher, plays on the shoulder of defenders, best suited to getting on the end of through balls played in by midfield. Currently being used as a target man.

Combined with players shockingly out of form all being played whenever fit. Tiote, Jonas, etc. Players who have played well when called upon on the bench Marv, Anita, etc.

Pardew, why not put your arrogance aside for the next 3 games, play players where they are meant to be playing, and players that have done a good job this season out on the pitch. Stop hitting the ball long which bypasses our strongest part of the side MIDFIELD. Get the ball down and play.

Team sheet for West Ham

Elliot
Simpson/Taylor/Colo/Mbiwa
Anita/Sissoko
Cabaye
Ben Arfa/Cisse/Goufran

That is all.

Col

The foreign players being a problem is as stupid an argument as you will ever here.

RVP - Carried Manchester United to the title.

Man City - try picking many English players in that bunch.

Arsenal -.

Chelsea - Their midfield is running the show for them, how many English regulars in that midfield?

The mind boggles at some of the absolute nonsense pundits and so called experts come out with about foreign players.

They are licking their lips at foreign players at one club, and then blaming foreign players at another one in trouble.

Yeah but arsenal man united Chelsea man city all have good foreign players and Newcastle's French foreign players are no where near as good I find it funny your actually comparing them #17th

Steven Taylor has been one of the worst players in recent weeks blaming the foreign players is just an easy excuse.

I seem to remember plenty of English players in our time last time we got relegated. Blinking short memories for some on here. Our situation is a combination of a manager not playing people in their correct positions, playing players seriously out of form a chronic lack of PL experience with the French lads and a big helping of gutletvess on the players collective parts imo.

To the poster that thinks we are discussing our players and comparing them to top 4 players, please learn to read properly before typing. He is not directly comparing any of those players to ours, just using them to make a point.
The point is that foreign players are just that, players.
When pundits etc make the 'too many foreign players' remark they are rolling out a cliché that is clearly a load of rubbish.
If they were intelligent enough to realise that this borderline racist remark is rubbish we may be getting somewhere. However it is rolled out again and again.

Players are players. What differs is management, coaching etc. That is where success is built, or failure begins.

Col

Last time we lost the derby we were relegated were we not? Just a thought.

Only 1 person that makes BIG decisions and its not Pardew. However, it is Pardews job to pick the wrong team everyweek

Gerrard, Lampard and Rooney have all, at one time or another, been among the 10 best players in the world. I'm a bit too young to comment on Beckham and Shearer though.

We'll forgive your youthfulness, but Gerrard, Lampard, and Rooney even at their peak would not get into a team of the best players in the world. They are hyped in the press over here but in comparison to some of the players of around the same age elsewhere in the world they would be lucky to be on the bench.

Col