Newcastle Banter Archive September 28 2013

 

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28 Sep 2013 23:19:46
Zues, people like you make me question myself why should I bother using this site? All you do is just slate everything people say that's positive. Don't care if you call me "deluded or "rose tinted specs" or whatever, its annoying, i'm just supporting my team, not the regime. I love using this site and reading peoples views, predictions and opinions, and sharing my own. but I hate it when people have a go at me for being positive or confident. just respect my opinion.

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Zues probably thinks Everton have a better squad than we do, and I am sure he would claim the reason he is not supportive of his team is because he is a 'realist. ' You have to laugh. What kind of realist thinks we are not capable of beating Everton?

It is people like that which are giving Newcastle fans a bad name, I have noticed comments in football articles after we win games; usually in the form of offering us commiserations for winning a game and having nothing to complain about, as we are quickly becoming known for a bunch of whiners, which is of course not true.

Anyways, for the sake of banter, and as according to Zeus he expects us to get beat 3-1. I challenge Zeus to retract his remarks if we get a result out of that game. I will offer to do the same if we get beat.

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JT your opinion is your opinion PERHAPS if collective venom was shown against Ashley instead of accepting his ridiculous ownership of NUFC as it was earlier which prompted him to want sell, life could be a lot sweeter

As for deluded, if you think this team under the manager and owner are a good bet for the top 10 I thinkl there is something deluded about that BUT I respect your opinion and hope you are right, BUT I don't hold out much hope,

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2nd post to Mr Mediator, JT and I can handle our differences and I put mine in Black and White what sre your? and I won't change them until Ashley has gone or we wim something OR even have a good team. (we have 3/4 of one at the moment.

Yes I think Everton have a stronger team and yes I think it is going to be tough BUT if we win I will certainly retract me opinion of the team is not strong enough or good enough

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Is this not a Banter page DO you have to be half blind to watch Newcastle.

Zeus states the present day obvious and I hope he is wrong but turning up and being treat like fools by the owner is a disgrace and it will keep on happening unless fans speak up

Do any of you people actually go to the matches

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{Ed001's Note - why are you not logging in to post in support of your own posts Zeus12?}

Agree with Zeus at least he gets to the main points of this club
Good to see optimisim because mine went a long time ago.
There is no positives coming out of the Toon at the moment.

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{Ed001's Note - oh and Zeus12 again.}

I have been a Newcastle supporter for 45 years so Get real criticism is warrented the club is ran as a money maker for Ashley by his puppet manger and person joker.

Watch and hope by all means but don't knock those who realise what is happening at Newcastle.

No wonder other fans have a good laugh at some NUFC supporters.

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{Ed001's Note - Zeus12 you seem to spend a lot of time pretending to be someone else.}

2nd post suppose you did not see Liverpool Sunderland Arsenal or Hull
Wake up you fools to think suddenly things will get better They won't so wind in your neck and your shouting
You Vic & JToon are 3 claptrappers

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{Ed001's Note - and another Zeus12 post.}

So posting negative things on here and calling for ashley out is going to fix everything is it?

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All about opinions Stupid comments from Vic people have a different opinion to you They are not Mackems because the dare burst the already deflated balloon

Don't knock those who speak as it is

Sandy

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{Ed001's Note - Zeus12, you really need to stop pretending to be other people to pretend there are lots who feel the same way as you.}

There is nothing wrong with criticism of Mike Ashley, certainly not.

My point, as the 2nd commenter, is that it is not unrealistic to believe we have a team capable of beating Everton.

I think we have a better squad than Everton. The main difference is that Everton's back line is far better drilled than ours.

Nobody is saying you have to love Ashley, but when you start trash talking the team and making the squad out to be much worse than it is, you are going to get disagreed with, for not speaking in facts.

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Ashley to Pardew they will have what we give them and they will still turn up on force
Everton for me will finish in the top 8 Newcastle will finish in the bottom 8 and NO I am not a Mackem I support the Toon but faith had been destroyed

Royce

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2nd last post FACT is we do not have a good a squad as Everton or most other teams. we can be OK but just that and that is FACT and everyone bar you knows it.

Johnny T

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Sandy: challenge for you: tell us all which of my comments was stupid? Vic

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''2nd last post FACT is we do not have a good a squad as Everton or most other teams. we can be OK but just that and that is FACT and everyone bar you knows it''

I like how you went through the squads and proved it.

Sorry, but you do not know what you are talking about.

Our squad's current value is much higher than Everton's. ''FACT. ''

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Come on Sandy! Crawl out from under your stone and answer! Vic

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{Ed001's Note - Zeus did answer, but it was just another abusive reply so was deleted.}

''2nd last post FACT is we do not have a good a squad as Everton or most other teams. we can be OK but just that and that is FACT and everyone bar you knows it.

Johnny T''

What is ''we can be OK but just that and that is FACT'' supposed to mean?

Is that your assessment of how Everton have a better squad than Newcastle?

We have a better squad than the one that finished 5th, Everton have got weaker. Yes, last season Everton finished higher, but we got to a quarter final in Europe, and all but for one stupid stray pass, we were heading to the Semis. Finishing 5th and then getting to a Quarter in Europe is better over 2 seasons than what Everton have accomplished. Plus, we now have a better squad. I am sure you blame Pardew for all our problems too, but right now you are blaming the squad.

So what is Johnny T, is Pardew actually not to blame for our lower place finish in the league last season? That sure sounds like what you are saying. We have a weak squad; therefore Pardew must have done quite a good job by your standards, am I right?

Which one is it? Pardew is grand, and the players are weak, or the players are good and they have been badly managed & coached.

I would be interested to hear your knowledge of what you think the problem is.

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So Zeus 'gets to the main points' and 'tells it as it is'? This is the person who says there are only three teams as poor as us, but hopes that we'll get 25 points by January! If we take, say, 12 points from the three poor teams, he's hoping we'll get another 13 points from better teams, and by January! And he calls other optimists deluded. If we've got 25 points by January we'll ALL be delighted (and surprised). Vic

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So much for the better squad could have been a cricket score at half time.

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28 Sep 2013 11:55:06
I'm feeling confident about everton. Pardew will need to go with a good game plan, and the team need to stick to it and not get distracted. no doubt will everton target the wings with baines, mirallas, pienaar, coleman. that's why we should go with a 4-1-4-1 in my opinion, tiote needs to come in and be the anchor and anita and cabaye have the technical abilities to play in remy and ben arfa on the counter attack who can support cisse.

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No siisoko then

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I think that's what he's getting at.

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Toon what you on
Leeds beaten again today you mean
I want to read your posts after the next 5 games
You really are deluded

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JTToon are you Joker in disguise
Keep taking the tablets m8
As a supporter and not a fool I expect 4 goals in this game & at best we will get one

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It's not totally stupid to have a bit of hope v Everton - did you all think West Brom would beat Man Utd? Or Villa come from behind to beat City? If you knew anything about football you'd know that unexpected results do happen, especially early in the season. And there's no need to be insulting just because you disagree. Vic

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Does anybody else think that Zeus12 would like to see us relegated so that he could say "I told you so"?

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Amazes me when people comment in reality they are called anti Newcastle
Think what you want I agree our team is going to get some thumping this season
Other teams have depth if you gave not noticed we havn't

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Geordie hope you are in Chester
I don't want Newcastle relegated but I expect them to be there or there abouts, even by virtue we will play Obertans Williamson & Gosling and the longer Cisse goes without scoring in the league we will be cemented near the bottom

Take that which way you like but stop Dreamin & knocking people who have their eyes open

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Agree last comment
Most of us are like sheep and that is what Ashley banks on
Be happy when we win but be realistic when we are stuffed like by Hull who if Graham could score we would have conceded 6

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Leeds are 2nd rate so don't get carried away
Obertan was useless We are too thin a squad to be serious
Everton will be tough as will the next 4 games only because we did not add a natural quality CB and someone who can score goals in the Premiership

Keep believing but be realistic

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Zeus carry on being pessimistic I don't care, at least I support and have confidence in the team.

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JToon don't ever change but don't knock those who see the bigger picture
their words should never change you but Ashley will if this carries on and we keep supporting a hopefully and at best a mid table team with no chance if winner a trophy
BUT there is no other alternative so I and many others will have to disappoint
you with our negative but realistic comments

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Jtoon I admire your optimism and blind love of Newcastle united but you are rarely right with anything you say. Take off the rose tinted spects, step back pretend your not a newcastle fan and a neutral then you will see the truth.

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Zeus: you're letting your vendetta with JT get out of hand. Just because you repeat your predictions of doom over and over again won't make them come true. You may be right, you may be wrong, and we all know that we don't have strength in depth - the more you bang on about it the more it looks like Chester has a point. Vic

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Vic no vendetta with JT just opinion which is mine
I will never believe in this club as long as Ashley owns it THAT for means I do not want Newcastle not to do well or support them less but an expectancy
due to the inadequate ownership & management.
Don't believe in fairy stories or reasons why Newcastle should be at best be an also ran club
If you are happy with that that us your fault

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I don't understand what I said that was wrong in my original post. I'm just sharing my opinion that I'm feeling confident that if we play like we did against villa we'll have a good chance.

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And if we play like we did against Hull
get your helmet on
Despite 2 wins I have only seen 3 other teams as Poor or worse than us & the reintroduction of Obertan Williamson & Godling is frightening

Hope I am wrong Monday will be a great test to find out
Just hoping we can get to January with
25 points

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JT: you said nothing wrong. This site is plagued by people like Zeus- he says it's not a vendetta but then comes on with post after post (5? 6? in a row) calling all optimists fools, sheep, deluded etc, but he's just as deluded. He thinks Ashley logs on to find out what you and me are thinking! "Oh good, " he says, "JT's still hopeful- tell Pardew to pick Obertan and Willo. " Not. If we lose on Monday he'll be on here like a shot gloating about how it's your fault. never happy unless we're losing - Mackem in disguise, methinks. Vic

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Cheers vic haha

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Vic your thoughts are your thoughts
think what you want Newcastle from a team point of view are not strong enough with an owner who is happy at mediocrity and your support of that is your problem so just get used to it.
Depends where we are in January when another influx of players MAY come in will decide if we survive this season.
AND I know and attend the NUST what the feelings of most true fans are DO YOU or are you really a Mackem in diguise??

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Vic have a day off and wake uo Don't you like the truth.
We Newcastle supporters are restricted in our enthusiasim by one man Ashley
Hope you like milk in your stout because everything has been diluted at ths great club.

Sam Vai

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{Ed001's Note - and another Zeus12 post.}

Totally agree Vic make your comments BUT don't knock others that tell the truth
Be a supporter but look around and see what is going on
Others are sick if the owner and his awful way if destroying Newcastle
You Pleb

Ashton

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{Ed001's Note - Zeus12 are you really this sad?}

So you are a Mackem if you come on here and state the facts
Vic you are a at best a fool
Newcastle are in a mess no matter what slant you put on it
JT and you great football against Villa and Leefs what about Hull?

Penny R

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{Ed001's Note - wow, Zeus12 you really need to get out more.}

Some of you can't read. I agree withZeus about the state of our club and the way it's being 'run'. It's all been said many times before. BUT there's no need to insult all and sundry like he does, and his miserablist followers. But for the record, I hate the way Ashley and his sort are seemingly satisfied with mediocrity. I wish he would sell up to someone with ambition. I'm making my own little protest like many others, so no, I'm not a pro-Ashley sheep. But I'll tell you something, NO AMOUNT of anti rhetoric on here is any use at all. Has it still not dawned on you lot that Ashley doesn't give a f*** for your opinions, and neither do I. Vic

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Ashton: I don't knock Zeus for his views, which I broadly share, but for the unnecessarily insulting way that he expresses them. Vic

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{Ed001's Note - there is no Ashton, it was Zeus12 not signing in so he could pretend to be multiple people.}

Penny: penny for your thoughts would be over-charging. I know a damn sight better than you how much of a mess we're in. I've seen all the messes since the days of the great Len White, and that's a lot. So I taunt Zeus with possibly being a Mackem in disguise? If you bothered yourself to read his many posts you'll see that he loves dishing out insults, just like his fellow miseries, but he doesn't much care to be contradicted. Nobody knows yet if his forecasts of doom will pan out or not, and I for one am not making any predictions of great success. I'm not an Ashley supporter, I just tell it like it REALLY is, ie that no amount of whinging on here is going to change Ashley's mind, or magic a super-rich buyer. Action is what counts, and I'm taking mine, but I don't see any signs of action from fools, plebs, persons like you or Zeus. Prove me wrong if you can. Vic

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28 Sep 2013 10:25:46
Team for Everton:

Krul

Santon M'Biwa Coloccini Dummett

Ben Arfa Cabaye Tiote Anita Remy

Cisse

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JT. After Hull do you know about football?
Huddlestone looked Internatinal class which is shocking for us to allow this
Everton have 3/4 Huddlestones TIOTE BEEDS to play

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Agree apart from Tiote. I would prefer to see Gouffran in the team.

Back line is spot on.

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2nd post I think you should question yourself whether you know anything about football. I not sure if you knew that we put in a fantastic attacking performance against villa. We're hoping hull is a one off. We were solid and dominant against Leeds. But anyway it's fine with me if you want to carry on being depressed and pessimistic.

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JTToon opinion by 2 bd post is absolutely right
Question yourself not constructive comments

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JT question yourself you either only watch what you want with blinkers on or are happy just to blow your trumpet

Some daft comments from you lately
But never mind Ashley appreciates them

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Not sure about remy playing

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Zeus not really daft mate more like positive and confident as i've seen signs of 11/12. grow up and be a real supporter. do you want the team to do well? i'm not talking about ashley i'm talking about the team. from what you sound like, I think you want us to get relegated.

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Don't want JT but expect to be close
Bid difference and it us not just me fans are waking up every day
If we finish higher than 12th dinner on me if not it's on you
I hope they do we will see

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