Newcastle Banter Archive May 25 2013

25 May 2013 18:41:25
Couple of players I wouldn't mind seeing us bid for; ST Benteke or Lukaku - both still young and Lukaku seems unwanted at Chelsea with teams like West Ham, Fulham and West Brom being linked with him surely were in with more than a decent shout of getting him. CB Alderweirld - young and already good, I get the feeling we will need a more experienced leader type though and not sure he fits the bill so maybe someone like Shawcross? Maybe sees a route out since Pulis left and can't imagine him being on huge wages at Stoke so probably fits our wage structure although not sure how much Stoke would want for him. CM Erikson - I know there's some huge names linked with him from England and Germany but a bid to come to a club where he would be first choice (especially if Cabaye leaves) surely has to be appealing to him. you just never know. Two or three GOOD first teamers plus a few good youngsters added to the squad we already have minus a few outs (Harper, Simmo, Williamson, Gosling, Obertan) and we shouldn't be looking far off a top 6 side (hopefully) also if Tiote was to do one then a bid for Blaise Matuidi would be nice :) pd

Keep believing but we are light years behind top teams in the Premiership & Europe different planet

Sad fans just have to get on with it and accept the c. p coming out of Ashley and his clowns

Mediocrity name of the game for NUFC

I still think we need some more english players with experience though. Joleon Lescott would be nice, we have more of a chance in huddlestone or someone like that, eriksson is out of our price range. Lukaku wants to go to a club playing CL, so we should go for Aubameyang. We need a
proper winger as well so ince or Sinclair.

JMW

I agree with lescott, good player but I suspect to old for Ashley's liking and no doubt on huge wages at city, I'm a huge fan of Shawcross so would love to see him at nufc, would also love to see once here but I suspect he will end up at liverpool, although ince senior did say he should move to a club where he will get ample game time so he mite see us as an option, here's hoping :) pd

Lukaku and Benteke would cost more than 20 million each, plus they would be wanted at Champions League clubs.

May as well be realistic.

25 May 2013 12:31:53
what are peoples teams for 13/14 if we sell (I'm being a bit drastic but if it did happen) cabaye, tiote, coloccini, ben arfa?
Mine is:

GK Krul
DR Debuchy
DC M'Biwa
DC Lescott 5million
DL Santon
DM Diame 3.5million (release clause)
DM Huddlestone 8million
MR Aubameyang 11million
AM Sissoko
ML Sinclair 5million
ST Cisse

Pretty much agree with that team! Defo think we should go for huddlestone! {Ed004's Note - Don't get why original posters reply to their own posts}

Owned!

We don't need Huddlestone or Diame.

How many centre midfielders do we need.

I would be prone to getting rid of playing any defensive midfielders at all.

We have players like Marveaux, we should be utilising talents like that.

We have players in the Squad that could play some really good football.

Top clubs do not play 2 DMs, if any at all.

We should use Sissoko as our DM, and only because he is talented going forward, like Toure at Man City. A player like Sissoko is a two for one deal.

Sissoko as our only DM, with Bigi as understudy would do.

I'd like to see this:

. Krul.
Debuchy MYM Lescott Santon
. Anita. Sissoko.
. HBA. Cabaye. Ince.
. Cisse.

Subs: Elliot, Taylor, Haidara, Bigi, Marveaux, Gouffran, Remy

Its only too many midfielders if we kept tiote and cabaye. but diame has a release clause and we should snap him up before its too late.

huddlestone, diame, anita, bigirimana, sissoko

Agree to above post, if its 2 or3 just take in tandem if one goes one sits, just talk to each other! Years ago the best midfeilders were called box to box, job discription is just that. Centre mid should be strong in both boxes, Robson / kean perfect examples. Sissoko poss another

So original poster puts his team up for 13/14 then pretty much agrees with it in a reply post. My god, how daft can things get.

I just think huddlestone's a good player and would be a good replacement for tiote.

''Top clubs do not play 2 DMs, if any at all''

i would think bayern munich and bvb are pretty big clubs and the champions league is a pretty big game and both of those teams played 2 DM in that game

LOL. But huddlestone would be a good signing if Tiote left.

25 May 2013 05:34:20
I read a very good article in the local paper yesterday. It was copied from the MAG. It was pretty much saying what we already know about Pardew but it did make me wonder who actually picks the players we sign. Is it Graham Carr or Pardew.

Pardew only here now as if fatty got a new manager he would have 2 give him some cash. pardew will take us down next season!

I read the article on the Mag website (I think it was originally on someone's Blog) and agree it is very interesting. It seems strange that Graham Carr is scouting players such as Cabaye, Marveux, Cisse, Anita etc who all thrive on a passing style if play (and are all of a smaller build) yet last season, Padrew persisted with the long ball tactic?

This blog/article was written before the club confirmed Pardew's safety, but it did state that either Pardew or Carr had to go (I think most fans - if not all - are fans of Carr's work, so I think it was more of a 'get Pardew out argument' but one I still agree with).

It's very rare to hear of Pardew going off scouting - I think he was once spotted in Holland watching AJAX? Negotiations are done by Llambias and Charnley, so people who blame Pardew for signing rubbish are off the mark. This arrangement is common nowadays all over Europe, and that's why "managers" are now called head coach.

Who said we signed rubbish? I only said that who picks the signing purely down to a football reason. We have technically gifted players and we play long ball football.

Just my humble opinion, of course, but I think Obertan, for one, is rubbish. And a whole host of people on here have been calling Cisse and Tiote rubbish, for another two (I don't agree). But quite a few of Carr's choices have failed, so far, to make the grade. My point was that Pardew doesn't do the scouting or the signing, and doesn't have control of the budget, but seems to take all of the flak. We have some gifted players, but not enough, and it's interesting to look at how many games our best players missed during the season (see Wikipedia). We relied far too much on the likes of Perch - too lightweight for CD - Williamson, Simpson, Gosling and Jonas - not exactly rubbish, perhaps, but not what you'd call 'technically gifted'. And I don't remember many games when we put out our 'best' players all together.

Do the OPTA stats show which player (s) opt to play long balls? My guess is Cabaye and the weaker defenders.