Newcastle Banter Archive May 15 2013

15 May 2013 20:04:09
how many players do we have to name in our squad before the season starts {Ed003's Note - 25 }

15 May 2013 18:52:59
a lot of talking Newcastle going to sign wayne rooney, only doing this looking for publicity and we haven't a hope in signing him.

Chelsea, arsenal and Madrid are going for him
No way in hell

Rooney?

Does anybody remember the wage struture in place at Newcastle, no more than 60,000 a week.

Isn't Rooney on 220,000 at Man U?

Our wage cap is between 70 and 80k. Obviously this rumour is a joke, don't take yourselves so seriously.

15 May 2013 13:02:37
Newcastle to raid QPR for:

Remy, Hoilett, Taarabt & Granero (to possibly replace outbound Cabaye?)

Remy & Hoilett will have realised there mistakes by taking the wages.

Taarabt will be great behind Cisse in the hole.

heard it here 1st! Up the Toon!

Taarabt?

He cannot even get in a QPR team that was the worst team in the league.

I can honestly say this, if you asked me to name 3 players in the Premier League I would not want at Newcastle he would be 1 of them.

Showboats (even though he is no good at), will not pass, sulks, overweight, ego problems, cannot shoot etc.

Hoilett could be an interesting proposition.

Remy is a no go, he will want the same wages he gets at QPR, if we were going to offer him those kind of wages he would already have signed for us. It is blatantly obvious Remy's wages are too high.

Dont want hoilett he's been relega ted with two different clubs. geordie tom

Hoilett and remy would be just fine!

Granero is woeful

If you lot making predictions have not learned by now that ALL transfers will be done behind closed doors (after the Remy debacle) you are in cloud cuckoo land and typify desPerate fans willing this club to step up.

Pardew stays so everything remains the same except Ashley will take in 60m
from TV money no wonder these persons running the club are happy again. The Gloom has gonr

No, no, no and no. You heard it here first!

15 May 2013 11:08:50
questioning pardew. whether you be pro or anti pardew, let me know your thoughts.

Organisational management key. Do we look a well organised team?
Could be argued organisation comes from consistency of team selection.
Could also be argued it's something that should be judged regardless.
Good organisational management means whole squad able to play system.
Squad players well coached slip seamlessly into well organised system.
The knock-on of this is most injuries not being such a massive problem.
Even in terms of our strongest players, do they look well a well organised unit?
Vitally important to attack and defend as a team unit. Do we do both well?
Do our central midfielders and wing players have good link play with forwards?
Do our central midfield or full backs win their respective battles often enough?

Can be argued this has been done well in off the pitch cultural integration days.
Football related teamwork and team building a vital aspect of good management.
Most of squad been together over a year now. Do they have great understanding?
Does the team look more or less of a cohesive unit than it did in 2011/12 season?
Have new players been integrated well into system and utilised well positionally?
Do we look a proper team or team of relatively highly-rated and talented individuals?
Have partnerships been developed well between positional partners on the pitch?
Do our central midfielders compliment each others strengths as they should?
Do our full backs have good understanding and interchange with our wingers?
Do centre backs have good understanding with full backs and defenive midfielders?

Ability to motivate players, staff, fans, everyone involved in club extremely important.
Tried with fans, but wrong approach? Constant calls to support the team ill-judged?
In terms of players, have they looked highly motivated/energetic with high work-rate?
Did the team look motivated for relegation fight? Was there reponse in intensity to play?
Does the team regularly look noticeably de-motivated in second half of games?
Have squad and younger fringe players been motivated in the most effective way?
Has stating publicly numerous times they're not up to scratch destroyed confidence?
Said to provoke reaction, but best way to motivate players who had to be called upon?
On the flipside, for key players not performing, best motivation to pander to their egos?
Should any of this really be done publicly in interviews or press, or be kept in-house?

Tactics and strategy have been long called into question, even during last season.
Have pre-game set-ups been right and in-game tactical decisions been effective?
How many tactical masterstrokes have there been in comparison to clear errors?
Have players available been used effectively in suiting chosen tactical approach?
Have line-ups/set-ups showed visible plan to stifle oppositions key players/threats?
Have line-ups/set-ups showed visible plan to exploit opposition weaknesses?
Does the tactical approach look like a plan on how to win or on how not-to-lose?
Is there conflict of beliefs between players and manager on best tactical approach?
Does team selection and tactics get the best out of our creative and technical players?
Have key players questioned the tactical approach both in the past and present?
Is there a reliance on likes of Ben Arfa to win games instead of good team tactics?

Lack of time on the training ground at times has been cited as reason for poor form.
Should this hold that much weight or be something that good management adapts to?
Is training showing an improvement in individual performances and team cohesion?
Is training showing an improvement in fitness levels, work-rate and intensity in-game?
Is there clear positive signs of coached movement, patterns of attack and teamwork?
Is it simply coincidence that there's been so many training related injuries this season?
Have injuries been adapted to well enough and squad used in most effective manner?
Have in-game circumstances, deficits, injuries, etc been adapted to well enough?

Have new signings been utilised effecively, played to their strengths, aiding adaptability?
Have changes been made to try get the best out of players like Cabaye and Sissoko?
Has the issue of conceding early or first been identified and dealt with well enough?
Has there been any improvement or signs of creativite ideas in solving set-piece issues?
Has there been willingness to adapt and change tactics or system when it isn't working?
Has there been willingness to drop clearly out of form players regardless of name/status?
Is there signs of favouritism in selection, with liked option playing over the arguably better?
Have younger squad members and backup options developed/progressed or regressed?

Was europa participation adapted to and managerially planned for effectively enough?
Has there been a good enough change of fortunes/results post-january window/spend?
Is there signs of effective ability to communicate tactical strategy or ideas well enough?
Is there indication that the team understands, more so believes in the tactical approach?
Has touchline communication and instruction been good enough if strategy not working?
Is the visible relationship with manager and players as good as said or it should be?

Has responsibility been accepted enough by management for season/shortcomings?
Have excuses been used to deflect attention from errors in management/coaching?
Is it in fact sign of poor management not to accept responsibility instead of use excuses?
What example does it set to players with constant use of excuses for poor performance?
Have players started to relay these excuses/use them as crutch as season has gone on?
Has the media exposure/pressure that comes with the job been handled well enough?
Was media criticism post-derby and since good move or has it created negativity in press?
Have constant requests for fans to get behind the team been patronising to ever-loyal fans?
Has communication with fans been honest and open, with justifiable criticism accepted?

How much trust and faith in management and staff is there among fans and players?
Is stability something solely based on keeping management or is it multi-faceted concept?
If big players have frustration with manager/tactics, how long before they request moves?
If big names do have issue/look to move, does that not halt progression/breed instability?
Is there a genuine belief that management is of caliber to take the club to the next level?
Is the club/team at a stage where that step up in caliber is needed to progress further?
Does the new TV and commercial deal allow budget to secure manager of higher caliber?
If there are reservations about current manager, how much is he going to be invested in?
If change to be made, better to do so early in summer rather than ten games into season?

I do not really have time to comb through all of that.

I will say this though, Pardew appears to style his football on the football that Mourinho plays - Long balls with Fast and Direct play.

I can see what Pardew is thinking with our style of football: basically if you cut out all the messing around and play more direct you are playing the numbers game and getting more through balls over 90 minutes.

Here is the big problem that I have:

Using this model of football, it is absolutely crucial that there is support upfront, there is no point playing Mourinho football with Cisse up on his own, Cisse needs a man each side of him and one behind.

By not supporting our attacks we are in effect adding pressure to our defence. Giving the ball away so cheaply by not supporting our attacks and having men sitting deep is basically setting up to let the other team play.

If Pardew would commit to the style of football he wants Newcastle to play then I would back him. This half hearted attacking with deep laying players is suicide.

Either go for it, or just move on and let someone else come in that will.

To the first poster. god are the the ghost writer for the harry potter books lol. geordie tom

Jesus, war and peace was shorter than that.

I agree with 2nd poster. Pardew is never known for simple hoofball, its obviously the players still settling in, not having enough confidence and too tired. We will be better prepared next season and we will work on the mourinho style football over the summer, as every player will have pre season and stuff to settle in, we'll have a clearout of deadwood and some new attacking and defensive, technical coaches.

Boring with no point!

Need to watch more of Mourinho teams if you think Pardew 'tactics' are anything like it.

I do, and our football last season was very much like mourinho style, it's what pardews trying to establish at the club now. So that the new boys will be more settled and will have gelled more

Wouldn't it be really funny if the original post didn't get past the review stage after all that

I do, and our football last season was very much like mourinho style, it's what pardews trying to establish at the club now. So that the new boys will be more settled and will have gelled more

Are you a Mackem on the wind up?

Google : Pardew Mourinho

Pardew talks about Mourinho being his influence and how he stays in touch with him.

It is obvious Pardew attempts the Mourinho style football, but like I said, the execution is lacking because of the lack of support in attack.

To the person that said: ''need to watch more Mourinho teams if you think Pardews tactics are anything like it. ''

It is clear your statement is devoid of fact, if you do not know what we are talking about when we link Pardew to Mourinho then you should not really chip in.

Just because you google searched something doesn't mean you suddenly become enlightened and knowledgeable about football or any subject. I have been on here before talking about style of play or philosophy of football which has been lacking in any Newcastle team for a long time! Its my view that if the club really want stability and progression the club have to establish a philosophy of football I. e. The Newcastle way of playing the game, like Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool had in the past and have now got back so on and so forth. Once we do this the philosophy must run from the first team right down to the youth teams so everyone is playing the same way and as players grow and come into the first team they know exactly how to play. This is what Klinsman did in Germany about 10 - 15 years ago, now look at how good the German players are coming through. Its down to philosophy of playing the game and being taught properly. English football from youth upwards are not taught technical ability or positional play, just how to kick it and run after it. That's what is really needed to change not just Newcastle but English football