Newcastle Banter Archive May 14 2013

14 May 2013 21:40:55
Thanks for the 4 easy points. See you next season Yee haa.

You can bank on it mate, we can't wait

So the draw at your place was easy? Didn't it take us to score an own goal for yous to get a point?

Oh look who is out of the woodwork. I take it Wigan lost to keep you up. Your page was silent before the game. Most fickle fans going. You still finishing in the top 10?

Ha 1st time in years. next season you will be relegated by xmas. dicanio will take u where u belong.

How was it easy, you only got a point at your place because of an own goal. Plus at st James we didn't have time to prepare because of Europa plus we Wont hsve jonas who gave away two of the goals, and cisses goal should of been onside. We will be better equipt next season, with some top signings and no championship players. And mignolet will probs go to man u or someone.

They will all be championship players by the end of next season. no ba no noocastle. the second half of the season proved that

Wait a minute, I must have a fish as hungry as steven taylor on the end of my line, the BITES i'm getting.

Championship players next seasons says the mackem who team are 4th bottom of the PL. You ll be alright next season though with lewandski and Cavani coming in. Always in our shadow.

14 May 2013 20:19:37
Lots of people saying we've struggled because we have a lot of french players. It may also be because we've got a lot of young players, one of the youngest teams in ghe league, and with harper and posabally colo going, it will get even younger. We need to replace these players with experienced players, not necessarily old players. For example carroll has played a lot of players for someone so young, McCarthy too. Weimann is pretty intried, mcmannanan aswell.

Has everyone forgotten what Mcmanaman did to Haidara?

I don't want him at our club.

Agreed, I wrote the first bit, just saying a lot of people saying they would take him

Don't punish the lad for making a bad tackle, he felt awful, he apologised, move on. I'm sure Haidara has, why should you hold a grudge? If anything you should be angry at Dave Whelan, that bas**rd said it was fair.
McManaman's a good player, the kind of player we desperately need with that little something extra.

The Lad did not apologise he just got on with it. He and Whealan want hanging out to dry and Wigan got what they deserved relegation.

He did not apologise.

Do NOT want mcmanaman. That was an awful challenge that doesn't belong in the game. Also having him might upset team chemistry

How can you say how he felt, are you his mother?

End of the day, you don't go in like that on anyone, it wasn't missed timed (that is forgiveable) he was just f'ing reckless.

He is just what we need, isn't he. Another Tiote that doesn't know how to tackle. Well he has one good point in his game, he doesn't get as many cards as Tiote in a season

And as far as I know he never apologised, the owner of Wigan told him not too. I defiantly remember him saying
"well things happen in football, its the way it goes. All I am now doing is looking forward to the Norwich match at the weekend! This week I have been in the paper more than I have my whole career"
Something along them lines

After McManaman completly hatchet jobbed Haidara, I remember McMananman vividly standing with his hands on his hips waiting for everyone to hurry up and get on with the game.

Infact he seemed happy to play on after his tackle on Haidara, it was only the ref blowing the whistle that stopped him.

Ask yourself what kind of player could do that to another player and not put his hands in the air straight away and call for help.

We can't hold making a bad tackle against thr lad, it happens in football. he's a good player and would be an asset to us. I seem to remember danny guthrie breaking a hull players leg by kicking him for no reason, this was in the season we went down. We forgave him pretty quickly and it was as reckless as mcmanamans tackle on haidara

Youse are quick to forget bartons tackle on etuhu but still called him a hero. stamping on a mans nuts while he is still standing. tainted glasses?

Don't forget about Nolan on Anichebe or even Colo on Ba. If our players do these things it's not so bad but when other teams players do it to us they should be condemned to hell.

Whether McManaman made the challenge or not they are professionals, they get on with the job. Not act like 5yr olds and complain about 1 player being at the club

The lad made a bad tackle so what most players make bad tackles at some point he's just what we need sign him up

14 May 2013 17:47:00
coloccini is the heart of our team he's played the past 3 games, we've got 5 points and conceded 2. williamson looks confident playing alongside him and also many newspapers gave guti man of the match on sunday. you take away coloccini from newcastle you get a bottom 5 team, you put coloccini in the team and you get a top 7 team, simple as. also look what happens when we play english people, williamson plays and we win, simpson plays and we draw 2, we play debuchy and get beat 6-0 3-0 on sunday a penalty given away not for the first time, he is not what he looked like in the euros.

To be honest I think most fans have expected far too much too soon from our January signings. They've hardly had any time to settle into the squad or the playing style of the premier league and some like Sissoko have played completely out of position. Remember when we first bought Colo and Gutierrez and they were utter garbage, took Colocinni a full season to get anywhere near what he is now. I don't think Williamson has a place in our team but I'd like to see Simpson retained because he is a decent backup defender.

If you are going to put something on make sure you get the facts mate collo has played the last 2 games with Newcastle getting 4pts and conceding 1 and I don't support newcastle

So what you doing on here Bored I suppose!

Let us support our excuse for a football team the best way we know how. Slagging it thanks to Ashley

Not bored just need cheering up

Please don't put Gutierrez in the same category as Colo. We bought Colo, he was crap and became good. We bought Guti, he was crap, he remained crap. He needs to get away from St James's.

Colo: Do you think now by how he has played and came into his own at Newcastle that the 10 million that we spent on him was good money?

Jonas: Do you think now that he has had a few years at the club (scored 2 goals?). Do you think he was worth the 9 million we paid for him?

Never put Jonas and Big Col in the same sentence, unless your saying that they both play for Newcastle or Argentina.

Someone please list Jonas' qualities on the football pitch?

1) Runs around a lot
2) Falls over easily

What more can you ask for from a premier league player on thousands?

Jonas always the fall guy if it wasn't for his cover santon would have looked Hartlepool class Jonas couldn't get forward for covering santon what a poor buy santon has been

Maybe it's the over way around, Santon getting caught out because he's trying to defend and attack to make up for Jonas's lack of attacking ability.

Jonas has looked so good going forward when Haidara or Yanga-Mbiwa have played LB hasn't he?

Santon Hartlepool class? That's brilliant I mean he's played for Inter, Italy, 38 games for us this season whilst teams like Milan and Roma are looking at him but he's at a league two level?

Jonas and enrique had a great understanding thought when we changed from 442 he started to struggle

14 May 2013 15:53:20
Quit the negativity on here, say how much you like about wanting pardew out its not going to happen. December this year will be the time to judge pardew.
You could say that 11/12 was a fluke, but that's the equivalent of just saying 12/13 was unlucky. Stay positive and get behind Pardew.

That is all.

That is not all. Pardew has been found out plain and simple. If he stays on it will be the same old same old. He tactically inept and very predictable. It time for him to go.

If he is tactically inept, how did we win those matches last year? Don't say luck because we weren't lucky in every match

Exactly 3rd post! At least someone agrees with me, is staying positive and will give pardew another chance!

He tactically inept. He plays Sissoko a powerhouse box to box midfield player wide on the right. He plays Jonas who runs around like a headless chicken constantly slowing the play down and giving the ball away. He plays our playmaker behind the striker and then insist on hoofing the ball up to a striker who is less than 6ft tall. He then when getting beat throws on Strolla to add to the passenger carrying list. Should I go on?

When we needed to beat Liverpool at home. He decided to field Perch and tiote in the middle of the park. A grand total of zero creativity stuck sissoko out right and jonas out left. Played Cabeye behind Cisse. Then insisted on every ball being hit long hoping our 5ft plus striker would dominate their centre halves. Flicking on a ball which he never won to Cabeye who is not known for running on to such flicks. That is just one example. I pick apart another 35 games. Keep your head in the sand.

So if he is not tactically inept then do you find out tactic effective. I mean tactic not tactics as he only has one. The results speak for themselves.

He played sissoko there because obertan wasn't good enough against liverpool

So we didn't play hoofball last season when everything went so well so he decides to play hoofball this season despite him saying we have a small team and despite Ba saying we work on possession on training, yh pardew really does tell the players to play hoofball. Take a look at this stat, we've used 31 or something players this season, and half of them are inexperienced, lack the confidence and lacked the match fitness. Even the other half of players were still lacking fitness. Its the players playing hoofball not pardew telling them to. the defence don't push up high enough, I saw it on some analysis and even when we won this season the players weren't doing what pardew wanted them to do.

Give the new guys time to settle over the summer. then we will be prepared as well with fresh faces and will challenge top 8 next season with the squad we have atm.

So that makes it alright then. Take our really effective CM player and stick him on the right because Obertan is not good enough. Brilliant tactic. I think you have answered you own question with that reply.

Oh by the way where did liverpool rip us to shreads. that's right, through the middle with Gerrard and Borini.

So when the players don't do what the manager tell them what does that tell you. He has lost the dressing room. And I am not having that the players took it upon themselves to kick the ball long at every opportunity. Here is a stat for you as you like getting them out there.

Newcastle have played more long balls than any other team in the PL this season. That includes stoke.

I f I didn't know better I would say you were Pardew.

Where I will agree with you is we could finish in the top 8 with this squad but just not with Pardew in charge.

Those of you calling for Pardew to be sacked need to read 'The Numbers Game' - extract in today's Times. It shows that by and large changing the manager doesn't work; results improve (or don't) regardless of the change. You have to remember that chairmen (and fans) don't know that a new manager will be any better than the one they've sacked. Even managers with great CVs can fail at a new club - eg, Steve Bruce out, O'Neill in at S of Sh***. That worked a treat! Now 'failure' Bruce has got Hull - HULL, FFS! - into the prem. Another thing. You slate Pardew's tactics but you don't know the inside story - who's carrying an injury, who did well/badly in training, who's head's not screwed on right, how tactics can be altered for specific opposition. Most important thing (s) to change are your weakest players. The article's also interesting on substitutions - apparently the best times to make subs are 58, 73 and 79 minutes.

So is this what you do is it? Go around slagging off pardew in anyway possible, even if he got us back into the Europa league you still wouldn't be happy? Call yourself a supporter. Why don't you get behind him, and maybe we might do well.

I do get behind the team along with at least another 50,000 at every home game. Some of the tripe on show this season is a disgrace and we are more than entitled to have opinion on the matter. It's my opinion he should go. It not slagging of if your are pointing out what is quite obvious to everyone else.

How can you get behind the team but slate pardew with whatever you can. You're just plucking excuses from the air to try and get rid of pardew. he's not going to go. Pardew's a good manager, and with the more coaches he has the better he can work on his tactics. Right now we need some new technical coaches and some new players.

Excuses. They is no way you go to the games or have ever watch Newcastle if you think anything that is said against Pardew is an excuse. They are facts.

14 May 2013 12:25:57
Rightly or wrongly Pardew will stay, to sack him would be an admission of failure for Ashley. All those craving a big name with a reputation for winning things be carfeull what you wish for. Dalgleish, Souness, Gulitt all won trophies elsewhere yet were a disaster for us. Even Sir Bob Rob only managed semi finals and 3rd place although may have managed to win something had he not been disgracefully sacked.

If we don't sack him it will the same next season. It's not rocket science to see that he has been found out. If Ashley keeps him it down to the fact him simple doesn't care and premier league survival along with PL is enough for him.

Mancini has been sacked for a lot less at City.

Accept the inevitable Pardew will not be sacked he fits the profile Ashley wants subservient.

Newcastle will plod on and be another Stoke or similar this season was just a tester.

Pardew is a one season has been for Newcastle and his other clubs.

3 guys meeting in a Casino can never be serious and develop a decent team or club. Money is what drives Ashley get used to it. for starters WE NEED A MANGER that can build a team and who does not just nod his head.

Admittedly we've had a poor season, but there has been reasons behind it. no matter what people say and try to brush it off as a excuse the injuries we have had have been freakish and I would like to have seen any other squad in the prem manage with the amount we have had.

We need stability in the way Everton have had in the past few years. give Pardew another season, one season he took us to 5, this season he's under achieved so let's judge him on next seasons performance.

I agree with 5th post mate.

Under achieved? He has nearly took us down. It's alright saying stability and using Everton as the example but they had a very talented manager in Moyes.

Yes we have had some bad luck with injuries but when we have a had players available he either won't play them or plays them out of position. He sets us to be ultra defensive and when a team goes ahead he has no clue how to change it. Liverpool was the perfect example. {Ed001's Note - to be fair, just have to point out that Moyes comparison does have its merits. Moyes dragged Everton up to finish 4th in the 2004/5 season, the following season was spent battling relegation, though Everton finally finished 11th, they were actually bottom for a good portion of the season.}

But the season before he nearly took us to the champions league.

and the same fans whinging where sing Pardew is our King.

Problem lies with you fickle fans not the club

14 May 2013 08:41:44
It's official that ashley will give pardew another chance, and will back him with a good amount of transfer funds. Loic Remy, Andy Carroll, Alex mcCarthy, Mamadou Sakho are all being lined up as top targets with some new coaches coming in. fringe and some youth players look set to leave, coloccini, Jonas, harper, Simpson, Williamson, Gosling, Obertan.

Alright so if Alan pardew is keeping his job, then surely the best thing to do is to get behind him! I don't want to see negativity on this site like, oh Ill settle for 12th under pardew, or oh last season was a fluke or he's got no plan B. I want to read peoples transfer plans, some players they think we should go for etc.

Come on lads get behind pardew and we can get top 8 next season.

You only scraped out of relagation and now your saying top 8 next season, and you wonder why newcastle are called deluded, it will be no different next season.

Cant find nothing to say anything is official that Pardew is staying. I agree with the mackem for a change. If it is true that pardew has survived then it will be as you were under him next season.

Agree with the mackem But a better example of deluded is you lot thinking your signing Canvani. Come on Wigan.

Deluded or what. if the fans want mediocrity like Ashley does keep Pardew this club will go nowhere with this man in charge and Ashley will be happy with a team just staying in the Premiership

I don't think there are any real fans expecting that calibre of signings, he was picked up on by the press because of the new director of football short appointed, but then again we have as many deluded fans as you lot, let's just hope we both have better luck next season that's if we stay up like.

No, a club as big as newcastle united we should be challenging top 8 every season.

Big clubs like wolves shouldn't be playing in the first division alongside sheff utd but they are. along with Portsmouth who have dropped to the 2nd division. no team has the right to be where they are because of the size of their ground or following if that was the case it would be man utds league every season.

13 May 2013 22:36:14
ask youself a few questions
are you happy with our style of football entertainment wise?
are you happy with the managers tactics/subs?
are you happy that our manager can't control what comes out of his mouth in interviews after all he is the face and voice of nufc?
are you happy that our manager totally disrespects cup comps so much its become the norm to be knocked out by lower league opposition in an early round?
are you happy that your team progress to the qtr final of uefa cup and don't bother attacking till the 70th min thou still needing 2 goals?
are you happy at being humiliated at home v liverpool/sunderland?
are you happy at playing as if you are the away side whilst at home?
are you happy with our league position?
im not a happy bunny are you?

Yes I agree with a of those points. Except i'm happy that we've got a manager that can get us into the top 6 if he is backed by the board and fans.

I am very unhappy. I would be happy if we had a manager with pedigree, whos entire managerial career was fighting for survival. a manager who can have tactics to take on big teams. a amanager with with european reputation. think i'll be unhappy for a while!

Are you happy are you happy are you happy.

You know what I thought I was but you have put a downer on everything, I was happy now I don't feel happy, cheers mate your enough to drive a happy go lucky bloke to depression, now anti depressants must get some.

Totally agree mate. AS for Pardew leading us to the top 6. Not a chance. He is tactically inept and has been found out each and every game this season.