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No one's arguing Des I'm merely stating the facts as I see them. Yes, we're both arguably '2nd tier' premier league clubs at this current juncture but in terms of history, heritage blah waffle etc we're in the upper echelons.

Whilst I may have overstated the fact Newcastle are a small club, they've had nowhere near the success of Everton throughout the course of history.

And Everton is a very poorly run club contrary to popular myth. Whilst Bill Kenwright is a 'fan' his failures are too many to mention.

But, if you will, 2 failed stadium moves and a £20m balance sheet in the black when he took over is now £50m in the red AFTER he's sold all tangible assets AND we still struggle to compete for players with the likes of your Stoke's and Norwich's and, dare I say, Newcastle.

Be careful what you wish for as we were extremely close to going into administration on Kenwright's watch, on two occasions. Everything is mortgaged to the hilt and we're paying off loans at £7m per season to some shady BVI lending company. An investment vehicle for one of our directors, Robert Earl.

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Oh, and feel free to keep referring to me as 'the donkey'. Obviously that isn't my real name but if it makes you feel better to throw abuse, please continue. Just highlights your narrow-mindedness and ignorance if you are unable to make a point without throwing in a jibe. Cheers.

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Faircomment - fair enough, and quite correct, I genuinely, but not conveniently, unwittingly missed what was our worst period in our history. Shame on me. But where are your 9 league titles, 5 FA cups, European cup winners cup? Success defines a club's history and heritage. Not stadium capacity and owners

At the moment you are quite correct in stating that revenue, turnover etc are pretty similar but that's where the comparisons end. You are a small club.

JToon - 'the better Martinez does the more likely a BIG club like Spurs come in for him?' There are only 3 bigger in England than Everton and Spurs are not one of them. I could make a case for Barca though.

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Faircomment - ok we'll just go on the sky era and totally airbrush entire histories, eh?

You've finished above us once in 22 years and you have a bigger ground and a richer owner so you're a bigger club?

And I'm the donkey?!

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Everton 9 league titles ( more than chelski, spurs and man city combined), 5 FA cups. Historically the 4th most successful in English football history behind only Man U, liverpool and Arsenal. And ahead of Man U before sky monopolised the premier league.

Newcastle have finished above Everton around 5 times in over a century. Small club. Says it all that dolt pardew's ambition is to finish above the blues. Keep dreaming.

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