Newcastle Banter Archive July 07 2011

07 Jul 2011 23:45:35
You have a 2 laugh at the mackems who think they are signing top players. They have signed nothing but average players. Brown and O'Shea looked decent surrounded by world class players but wont be at Sunderland. And the young lad they have signed has zero prem experience. He might turn out to be a gd season but Sunderland wont see the bst from him for a few years. The players who we have signed have quality we still need 4 or 5 quality players though.

I've got to admit that Westwood and Gardner are good signings.

So that 18 year old french lad is quality. sorry but you say that about Wickham but yet your lad is 18 also, so you won't see the best of him in 5 years. wow Cabaye played well in the french league which is on par with the championship. come on man think before you spout utter rubbish. jealousy is setting in bigtime with you geordie's.ha

I ve never seen players like lisandro lopez, michelle bastos play in the championship. french league is as good as the spanish league imo

Your comparing Abeid to Wickham.
Abeid brought in as a player for the future who will play in the reserves for atleast one year for free.
Wickham payed over the odds. Couldn't even get a game over Rose for U21's who was terrible and is expected to be a superstar striker.

French league is like spanish league shows what you know about football sweet f.a what the real problem is jealousy doesn't matter about who sunderland sign he will be s**te in your eyes but just remember we got 20 mill for henderson the money has gone on strengthening the club which showed half way through the season was not good enough to challenge for a higher position. you got 35mill for carroll 4.5mill for nolan you have brought in 3 bosmans and to show ye clutching at straws 2 of them recently failed medical marveux's injuries to browns not comparable as marveux was out for nearly 2 year and cabaye who won the double last year oh forgot his that good he didn't need the rest of the team he won it himself if he was that good for an international and only worth 4.5mill i think other sides around europe would have snapped him up but like most top sides in europe in spain and italy know the current french league is like the scottish premiership you keep on bringing ye cheap imports in and see where it takes ye and thats down oh by the way with all these fees sunderland have paid and all the wages taken into account oh also all the agents fees we must have spent 70 mill plus in the last coouple of weeks. newcastle will not be making anymore signings until the likes of smith routledge best barton guitterez xisco ameobi are sold to generate funds but i cant see anyone queing up to buy this shower of s**te so looks like ye stuck with them on ye exagerated wages.

Haha ED why do you let people like this post Ligue 1 the same level as SPL that's possibly one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
How many world class players come out of the SPL?
Also the person who done Marveaux's medical at LFC said he passed so why don't you spread your s**t elsewhere.

07 Jul 2011 22:22:53
Source close to Real Radio legends said N'Zogbia and Defoe are in a hotel in County Durham.

I hope they are going to the toon and not the scum


Just been announced on the radio

Defoe is coming to Sunderland ....... eat your heart out Muppet

In place of Gyan aye maybe defoe, wickham and sing ding wing upfront next season, good luck your going to need it

Sunderland can have Defoe. He's overrated and injury prone. His scoring record is average and the only reason people bang on about him is because he's English. A classic underachiever.

I, d rather have kenwyne jones in a mag shirt than defoe...

07 Jul 2011 20:58:27
The real frustrating thing for me here is that I believe we have great foundations in place, that with time, money spent and development would see us challenging from Europe again and then take it from there. We all know that we have the stadium, the fans, the history, club stature and even the money to compete. But on the pitch we have great foundations in place. We have great players such as Enrique, Barton, HBA, tiote already here and I think the new additions of cabaye, marvauex and ba are very good ones. We have a very exciting midfield and possibly one of the best outside the top teams (probably needs the addition of the like of nzog though). For me with these players already at the club were only five signings away from really stepping it up a notch. We would have to strengthen again in January for depth. But two strikers, a right back, a centre back, and a winger and we could field a cracking starting 11. It's just frustrates the life out of me to know that all this is possible if only fat mike would stop being such a tight b**tard We have the money, we all know that, not only the £35m but fat mike is a billionaire as well ffs
I think were in a real transitional period right now and this season/transfer Market is vital to our future. It's going to go one of two ways, and with the cockney mafia in charge it's probably going to go the way we all know it shouldn't.
Here's to always hoping
Howay the toon

Totally agree with this post just annoying that this is the last window before homegrown rules come in so could do with a big one to set us up for the next few years

07 Jul 2011 18:58:50
Let's remember, there's 50 + days left until window shuts. Let's have faith that Carr has found a few diamond palyers

07 Jul 2011 14:54:49
Going to try and do this as fair and objectively as possible, too much talk of relegation etc, as delusional as some Toons can be, think the Mackems are getting ahead of themselves after the few signings, maybe i ll find i m wrong by the end of this.....

Part Three..... Attack

Gyan..........Ben Arfa
Campbell..........Ba
Wickham..........Ameobi
Ji Dong Won..........Best

Coming to writing this I was thinking the Mackems will have a field day on this one, and in ano overall squad sense think they do have the edge on us in the forward line but one solid signing to replace Best, I hope Shane Long or the Banguras, and I dont think theres anything to choose between... Very difficult to do a direct comparison because there will be a different system played by both clubs in attack, but thats why I compared Gyan to Ben Arfa, because he will drop off if the Mackems play two more than any of the other three would.

Right so....

Gyan vs Ben Arfa.... obviously Ben Arfa coming back from a serious injury, going to need some game time to be back in full flow, but do genuinely think if he still has the mental strength to carry the ball like he does he will be the new Toon hero... rarely in all my years watching football and studying players have I seen someone with dribbling ability as good as Ben Arfa, hes one of those very few that a commentator could describe as terrifying when running at a back four... now in saying that I think his end product still leaves a little to be desired form the wing, which is why I am delighted to hear he will play through the middle...

Gyan is a very good player, no doubt about it, and if given the supply will get goals... hard to compare these two directly so would have to call it a stalemate at the mo... if Ben Arfa plays to potential, hes the best player in either squad but whether he will remains to be seen... given that i ll say a slight edge to the Mackems right now actually

As for Campbell vs Ba..... I actually like Frazier, think he has a good eye for goal, has improved a lot, and is still young, so no denying he has potential... in terms of goalscoring next season, I think Demba Ba will score more than him if he stays fit, and is overall a better player than Campbell, but because of the doubt over his knees at this moment that pulls it back a bit... would have to call it a stalemate between the two

Wickham vs Ameobi..... Think Connor is a very good signing, paid a bit too much but if hes at the club five or six years that fee is more justifiable... In terms of who is the better player... its a hard one to judge... at this moment in time, based on Prem experience i d like to say Shola, but he is hit and miss... as for Wickham, will be integrated over time by Bruce I think, wont be playing evey game, and will be a learning curve for him this season, still very very young, but has potential to be a top striker from what i ve read.... so at the moment i d say stalemate, but by the end of the season it could be Wickham, slightly

Ji Dong Won vs Best..... Right, i m not a fan of Best, dont think hes Prem standard, and praying that the swap deal plus cash for Long has truth to it because that would be a great bit of business but Best is what we have so i ll judge it on that... Again, Ji Dong Won was linked with the Toon, so have researched him a bit, and have to say I liked what I seen, looks a good player, will take time to integrate, maybe a season, as all non European players tend to, but have to give credit where its due, very decent back up striker.. and definitely better than Leon Best

So there you go, very hard to call because of the question marks on both sides, between new signing settling in, living up to potential, and injury question marks on the Toon side.... said i d be fair and taking all into account, at this moment in time, pre-season, would give the edge in attack to the Mackems definitely, but as I said its closer than what is made out, and especially if Ba and Ben Arfa come good, and even more so if the Toon get another good striker in... but for now we ll give them the edge...
As for a conclusion on the whole lot, full squad comparison, judge for yourself, think I was fair, and personally would say theres not a whole lot in it... actually think both clubs will be far from getting dragged into a relegation batte this year... but Europe still may be a step too far this season... whatever the opinions, all rivalry and animosity aside, think things are looking up in the northeast in general, setting the pace for the clubs around us to cathc up on in the transfer market so far.

KRTOON

Fair one mate I'm a mackem, thing is we should be getting another striker in, rumours it is defoe but whoever it is will cost 10m+. Campbell is injured for most of next season I think so we need another striker to partner Gyan. next season will show us who means business

Would go along with ye on 99% of what ye say only campbell out for season injured mate whos ye best i think for you's its tiote by a mile and for us sessignon

Agreed with the Ben Arfa v Gyan one Disagree with what your saying about Campbell and Ba look at it this way Frazier is already a doubt for most of next season and Ba is fit ATM and hasn't really had a problem with his knee since coming into the Premiership also disagree with what your saying about Best I'm not saying he's better than Dong because I can't as I've never seen him play but like many fans you underrate him but that's your opinion and this is mine neither are right or wrong.

True, bit of an oversight, apologies, forgot Campbell was out long term, mackems will need another striker, think they were silly to get rid of Jones to be honest but someone similar would do a job for them and would compliment Gyan, someone like Cameron Jerome maybe.. cant see them forking out another 10 million on a forward so think he would be one of the best options for the money they ll probably spend... another one I did like before he got the serious injury was Dexter Blackstock, dont know what nick hes in these days though, bit of a risk taking him on i d say... only other one I can think of off hand thats available would be Bothroyd, decent scoring record... what do the mackems think?

KRTOON

As far as who I think is the best player at each club... difficult at Newcastle, at the moment has to be Tiote for me too, Enrique is a class act but who knows if he ll stay, not looking likely at the moment, but by the end of this season i m praying Ben Arfa has comes good, if he plays at even 80% of his potential he ll be the new hero, personally two of my favourite players of all time were french left footers.. Ginola, obviously... and Robert, had his critics, and wouldnt do a tap for 89 mins in certain games, but would then score a goal of the season contender, legend in my eyes... so hoping i ll be saying Ben Arfa is our best come next May

Best player at Sunderland.. would have to disagree with Sessegnon right now, as I said before, could come good this season and be quality, but at the moment I dont think theres any question, Gyan is top dog for the mackems

KRTOON

KRTOON

07 Jul 2011 14:49:00
You know what I find hilarious, the fact that people CONSTANTLY bleat on about Mike Ashley, do they really think that bitching about him on some rumour site is gonna affect him? He doesn't read any of this s**t man. Bitch all you want MA will stay at Newcastle as our owner until he feels that he wants to leave. He is turning the books round for us, and we're due to break even this season. All you are all interested in is spending all the £35 million we made from Carroll...that's all I've heard from the second we sold him. For gods sake, remember what happened last time we spent like that? That's right...relegation, a huge wage bill, and players running off left, right and centre because they had no loyalty at all. Sure MA makes some dodgy decisions that no1 can possibly understand but jesus christ just shut up about him and the friggin £35 million already. We have some quality already in with a couple more quality players and probably 2-3 fringe players coming in, but the end of the season, and changes are they'll cost around £15 million tops...gonna be fun listening to "OH THE FCB SCREWED US AGAIN, WHERE IS THE £35 MILLION WE WERE PROMISED" blah blah blah. Ya know what, this bloke could pave the way to a premier league title for us, and you'd still complain about him. STFU BEATING ON HIM...HE'S OUR OWNER, DEAL WITH IT We're geordies ffs...we get behind the team no matter what, and instead of that, all you wanna do is sit behind your keyboards and bitch about the person who has funded the club from his own pocket since he bought it from Fat Freddy.

Rant over

You come across sounding a bit crazy but you are of course right.

Some body with some sense and i thought all geordies were jocks with no brains

I agree with what your saying about Ashley but what you're saying about the £35 million is ridiculous of course fans are going to talk about it we've been promised it to be spent and people are excited about that and if you can't stand it that much why come onto sites like this where people are going to talk about these things and it's their opinion so you can't get angry with that and expect everyone to have the same opinion as you even if you do disagree with them.

You're having a go at people bitching about Ashley yet you're bitching about these peoples opinion.

07 Jul 2011 10:50:10
Not a rumour but if jose enrique went2 arsenal i wouldnt mind bendtner and chamack in return wat r ur thought fellow mags

Both are overrated and terrible, and so far up their own backsides they wouldn't want to move to us. Anyway I'd rather have enrique.

I wouldn't mind Gervinho in return.

To the second comment how is Chamakh up his own backside I have never heard him say he is the best in the league or world seems like a good guy.

Both would be alright they would thrive from week in week out football and both want to prove Wenger wrong and show they are capable to play in the Premiership but we seem to be looking for a quick striker now.

We would get neither, Fat Ashley probs settle for 2 kids out their acadamy for future sell on profit With these clowns in charge we will NEVER buy a top player.

If ye can remember sunderland had a bid accepted for chamakh last year and he took arsenal although good in france has been s**te in first season but could improve not worth half the money paid for him

Why would either of them want to go to yous its not just a case of writing their name down and they come you no

He never said were getting them he said he wouldn't mind them he didn't say he expexts them to join.

07 Jul 2011 08:11:17
in the newspaper today, it said that Adam Johnson was unhappy at man city and might ask for a move, i know its unlikely but he is a toon fan so if MA actually used some of the andy carroll money and signed him, he would be a class signing.
Wages will be a problem though:/

Did you ever read Pardews interview, most of the 35m has been spent on fee's, wages and agent fee's, Johnson would cost at least 17m something we don't have

What makes you think we only have carrolls transfer fee available to spend? Wouldnt be unreasonable for MA to allow other spending too on the right players After all being in the premiership last year was worth nearly 90 million

Believe me youll not spend that kind of money you know that take your blinkers off