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07 Aug 2011 21:43:19
just wondering why everyone seems to really dislike Ngog he was actually doing very well for liverpool last season then they signed suarez so he was back to the bench i personally hope we sign a quality forward from the turkish league as they seem to all work bloody hard and quite a lot of goals but i think the kierrison deal wd be excellent too
07 Aug 2011 21:28:05
Many calls for NUFC to bring in a striker.
We seem to have in our mind Andy C but tell me which teams are using the tactic of lumping balls up to a battering ram.
The successfull International teams and sides like Barca dont use Wimbledon style tactics they have any of four or five breaking quickly through midfield to get their goals hence very difficult to defend against.
Remember Germany vs England world cup we simply could cope with their mid field pace.
You need players who can shoot and head the ball when attacking, but work it out ,do you have a better chance of scoring in a 3 against 2 or a corner kick when everybody is back defending.
The succesful teams and International sides have worked it out and I think NUFC might just be developing a side that can play this fast counter attacking style.Roll on Saturday and lets see if we are heading the right way.
07 Aug 2011 20:27:40
Was at the match on Saturday would be unfair to comment
On performance due to weather but I was quite surprised
at how small marveaux is haven't seen enough of him
But wandering wether he will cut it in the premiership
Would like opinions on this.
There been a few small players who have done very well in the premiership so not too concerned Look at zola, walcott, SWP, lennon owen to name a few
Hes 5 foot 8/9 since when was that small it is the avaerage height for a normal man. its just th fact that the premiership is full of cloggers who have no skill just pace and strength. look at messi xavi, the best player ever all under 5 ft 6
Was not knocking the guy and surprised he's 5'8 wish him and all the players good luck and roll on sat
Actually hes 6ft 4 but he was standing in a puddle
07 Aug 2011 18:41:39
{Ed042's Note} Sorry to have to post this again lads, with the amount of crap ive had to delete today some people obviously missed it...
Been a lot of good posts, footie chat and quality banter being ruined by simple abuse as of late.. we have been letting it go but end of the day want the site to be QUALITY content above quantity and have a very good reputation for both rumours and banter.. nobody wants to read pages of ill thought out abuse at the end of the day, just repetitive and boring
Same goes for rumours.. posts along the lines of Les Ferdinands mothers brothers granny is coming out of retirement to partner Ba up front just wont be put up.. didnt get that by the way ha well actually did today but was taking the mick out of this.. anyway you know what I mean.. keep it to good banter, footie chat and rumours based somewhat in reality, quote a source if possible, things like that you know
Also just a quick mention about the twitter.. people that have followed in the past couple of days have helped the cause a lot in getting good reliable info for when you ask questions.. as you know its a popularity contest on that thing so the more followers I get the better for the site.. so if you can add @keithrtoon and spread the word, get others too as well would really appreciate it lads thanks.. and sorry again for the repeat post
07 Aug 2011 17:58:34
Having just watched the Charity shield together with his under 21 performances I think Alan Pardope should get on to the phone to his new Mate Sir Alex and say since we are doing him a favour and buying Obertan he should let us buy Welback and take Cleverley on loan for the season. Warnock in at left back, cover at centre half and Defoe up front.
Since January have lost Carroll, Nolan, Kuqi, Campbell and Routledge. With Enrique and poss Barton going we also need to off load any two off Lovenkrands, Best, Ranger or Shola Ameobi as we desperately need two strikers and I can't see MA paying for the four above plus the two we still need.
Signed Cabaye, Ba, Marveraux, Albeid and soon Obertan approx 200k in wages a week and spent 7.5m approx plus say 6m max in signing on fees and agents, so total spent 13.5m approx
Defoe and Welbeck 15 - 18m approx 100k wages, Warnock in 2-3m
Some quick figures would suggest MA still making a profit on sales of about 16million which includes paying alledged agent fees and signing on fees for the players we have already signed. Finally if we could off load Smith on a free and get Cleverley on loan MA would make an overall saving on wages of about 60 - 100k a week at a guess.
Any thoughts (Legin)
Hes just lost 2oom on the stock market so no cash
Ahhh thats whats been the problem. He seen this coming so been keeping his cash back The thing with the stock market is you can lose that much on paper one day then double it back by dinner time the next day
He may have lost money on the stock market but wat the f**k has the stok market got to do will NUFC. mike ashley has been making a profit out of us as well as mugs. FACT
Fact - there isn't a football club in the world making a profit.
You obviously are an MA insider trying to impress us that he has been able to do something no other football club is able to do.
{Ed042's Note - There is mate... we`re one of only two clubs in England not to make an operating loss last year, Arsenal being the other... granted we dont make massive profit at the moment, broke about even, but within four years we with no remaining debts or loans we will be a self sufficient profitable club}
07 Aug 2011 17:13:29
Normally just post opinions and players who we should be after, but I have heard this afternoon that we have spoken to Spurs about Pavluychenko and he could become our new number 9 this week. I did not think he would fit into our plans at 29 years old and high wages, but alot of noise being made about this. Unless its our famous smokescreen masking a different agenda? Would love him here.
Psycho
Definitely not going to happen ,how do I know Its in the Sunday Sun we are going to sign him,no logic is given why on earth NUFC would consider a 29 year old when they made this an issue with Nolan. Our local paper gives a different target every week so that by chance if it was to happen they would "we told you so" its pathetic journalism and I,m disappoint
We wont be signing him No sell on value and wages too high Same with crouch Be obertan and 2 players of similar stature if anything
A wudnt have him anyways. there are much better players about who are available, better age lower wages, sell on fee and some talent
07 Aug 2011 15:33:50
Ed any news on the striker situation?
Who is the most likely to be brought and will it be before the Arsenal game?
Ive heard we are looking at Yannick Djalo again?
07 Aug 2011 15:15:25
Joey Barton has just walked in my work place Burgham park golf club in Northumberland in a army landrover lol . So he's not down London
Aye theres a vintage car thing going on at durage bay. a think
Walked in in a land rover?
{Ed042's Note - Haha was a flinstones landrover apparently}
He can walk on water according to you Geordies.
Id quite happily encourage him to walk over the tyne in lead filled boots
07 Aug 2011 15:09:11
Hey ed. We are in need of a centre back for cover and to push Taylor and colocini , wouldn't the perfect solution be to sign upson on a free. I believe that warnock may sign before next week along with long and Obertan :D walkers wisdom
{Ed042's Note - Not a big fan of upson personally, would rather fork out the 4 mil and get bassong or mangala}
What about Ridgwell? Apparently available for £1.5m and can also cover left back.
Geo
07 Aug 2011 14:56:19
to kevin nolan welcome to the fizzy pop league ...pmsl geordie tom
Nolan did nothing in todays game apart from missing the ball on the goal line
Legs have gone
07 Aug 2011 13:45:11
just watching nolan playing for west ham, its like ya ex lass out in a bar with a new bloke
{Ed042's Note - Doesnt say much for your ex lass :P take it she was a looker?}
He's not playing great tbh, keeps going missing
07 Aug 2011 13:39:12
To the ed on here, still no chance of Smith moving on?
{Ed042's Note - Unless Leeds want to pay 100% of his wages not likely mate}
Fat Cashley and Ken Bates should go out on a date and sort it ;)
{Ed042's Note - Would all fall apart when it cam time to pay the bill, both tight gits ha}
Fair point :( :( :(
Think MA will might work it out.
LUFC pay £10k/week thus NUFC save half a million and have a clause that if LUFC get promoted to the PL they give us the £2.5million that we will have paid AS while he played for them.Since hes just gonna sit there this season seems a reasonable bet Mike dont you think?
This is exactly my point - I mean you're going to be forking out for him for a year at Newcastle anyway so that seems more than reasonable. Someone want to suggest that to Fat Cashley? ;)
Mind you on the Saints showing I'm not sure we look promotion material but with someone like that in there kicking some arse we might stand a chance......
LOL
07 Aug 2011 13:22:46
It seems a deal has been done for Enrique for 5.5m.
Is it just me or is this crazy? Are we trying to get rid of all of our best players? Even if for peronal reasons Enrique wants out, he is worth atleast 7m + which would have given us 42m to spend on new players. Shame we wouldnt be spending any of it anyway...
Enrique might want to be away, still class act yesterday,not affecting his game (a woundnt let him leave until after the sunderland game)
Wouldnt let him go for any less than 10 million, Daglish would come back in Jan with more than 5.5 mil he would be scared that someone else would come for him on a free at the end of the season
Aye january, good shout hes going on the cheap, 8 to 10 mill for me
07 Aug 2011 12:06:39
I think that we give pardew a hard time considering what he has managed to do with the fat controller in charge. I would like to see Obertan , long and hopefully warnock join our squad which has potential.
Obertan yes, long overated but worth a shout for th right price, warnok no way to old with no future sell on price.
07 Aug 2011 12:06:09
what is going on with all of the French players comming in Cabaye, Marvaux, Abied and now Obertan. Now i am not complaining as they all look good players i am just wondering why only French players being signed. On a side note looking forward to Saturday as Arsenal have a lot of injuries and its a good time to play them.
We could be world beaters if they gel.
Good team chemistry...havnt you played fifa?
No i am more pro evo
Its apparently down to the way we treated ben arfa when he got injured last year This is supposed to have gave us a good name in france and made us apeealing to french players and agents who contacted the club about their players
"WORLD BEATERS" ha keep off the brown ale mate
What about SAFC? Arent hey gonna finish 4th this year? Thats what you all saying
Na 5th
Not so long ago the French team was top dog, you no another name for Broon.
07 Aug 2011 11:33:41
ED...any news on tiote ...geordie tom
{Ed042's Note - Morning mate, all set for the game later? watch Utd and City kick lumps out of each other ha.. Tiotes visa has been delayed, nightmare trying to get it sorted quickly due to Ivory Coast embassy being in Ghana, hoping to get it sorted before Arsenal game, nufc fitness coach is over there with him making sure hes keeping fit, bit of a mess granted but should be sorted soon}
Morning m8..aye ill be watching the manchester derby...cheers for the info on tiote ...owt on our new number 9 yet... i heard the russian from spurs...oh and peace talks with barton this week...cheers again ...geordie tom
07 Aug 2011 11:12:37
erdinc could sign for newcastle but he will definetly leave as psg have 12 strikers/attackers 7. Giuly 8. Luyindula 9. Hoarau 11. Erding 14. Kezman 18. Arnaud 19. Gameiro 21. Maurice 24. Menez 25. Bahebeck 35. Loval Qasmi B
PSG Also landed Pastore today.
Erding and erdinic are the same person, are they not?
Erding is his name in english but the tirkish way to spell it is erdinc
Looks like the mighty mackems are going to pinch erding from under your noses as weve offered him more wages also bellemy on his way to s.o.l maybe forlan depends on wages source coach at club
You havent had a bid put in let alone accepted for erdinc so how have you offerd more wages? You can only speak to a player once club accepts your bid
Who would want bellamy anyway
Who says we havent made a bid
Who says you have?
I was reading a post from Newcastle fans last week saying how good he was at Newcastle, although you hate him now.
Bring him on.
It would be reported on sky sports or somewhere like that or even PSG would announce it like they did with us and malaga
He is 3 to 4 years older now and didnt exactly set fire to the championship last year did he?
Hes a real trier though
07 Aug 2011 10:57:51
cabaye was brilliant against fiorentina, he kept the ball, didnt lose it, passed very well, won the ball back, him and tiote next season will be brilliant.
I heard he looked very confident as was moving the ball around really well.
Cabaye alone won?Ǭ¥t keep us away from relegation...We need someone in front of him two put the ball in the net. We cannot put our faith in Ba alone, and the other strikers we have is just dead meat. I would say we need two quality strikers added or we will face very big problems this season.
At least 1 NEEDS to come in Cabaye does look like he will be a cracking signing tho Likes to pass and move and his passing is really precise and has good vision too
I thought his free kicks were terrible
07 Aug 2011 10:11:44
Mancini has told Adebayor he'd not in his plans at Manchester City.
How I wish Ashley would be willing to pay his wages.
07 Aug 2011 09:35:45
To help Mick Martin and a host of others who c MA ask "what is MA plan for NUFC".
Clearly he has no plan to go for high priced ,high wage earners.He leaves that to Shieks,Russians& and Americans who may well of over spent in the turbulent financial world. Clearly he has spotted that NUFC have tried that route and been unsuccessful for 50 years and is rebuilding NUFC with young, talented progressive players to see if we can finally end the drought.The disposal of KN underlines the plan,plus the type of signings made,coupled withthe upgrading the training facilities to back up a modern approach to fitness and tactics.Since actions speak louder than words what more could you be told that would help you understand where NUFC is headed.If you still can't grasp the plan r or see the merits in it I think you should consider transferring your support to SAFC who are following our old unsuccessful plan.
Ashley may not want to "throw good money after bad" but it carries a very high risk if we want to stay in the Prem. Fact.
I would love to see a youth system which can excel and produce future stars but the fact is that it takes time. We need to spend a bit of money now to strengthen (obvious we need at least 1 more striker) otherwise will could struggle if injuries and suspensions hit us, then in time, bring through any emerging talent. But still need to spend some in this window.
Psycho
Why did a young lad who lives in Cramlington and his dad is a life long Newcastle supporter sign for Sunderland boys?
So his son can earn more money?
Why did he not go sign for wallsend boys club first or maybe our scout did not fancy him...i,n a nufc fann all the way but if my only chance was to sign for safc and maybe a pro carreer then YES I WOULD SIGN FOR THEM...my dad uncle is a makem through and through joe harvey watched him tries to sign him and he refused as he hated us the toon..do you agree ed042
{Ed042's Note - With which part? playing for safc if it was my only chance at a pro career? obviously if a prem club wanted you then it wouldnt be your only option ha but personally mate I wouldnt play for safc if given the chance to, call it a stupid level of loyalty but would rather play in a lower league than play for the other side, id gladly play for the toon for free if they asked me ha.. pards? mike? you about? honestly ill play for free, ill wear an apron and be the tea lady if it means being at the club ha}
In all honesty, I turned down a trial at Boro at the age of 16. Couldn't even face the prospect of playing for them, never mind the Mackems.
Psycho
I turned down the chance of playing for Benton Social Club so that I could sign on for St Dominic Boys Club (circ 1962)
Cos he went to a propper club just look at the kids coming through and where they are in the league bally has great understanding with the youngsters even our under12s have a pro footballer running them yours has a male nurse yeah very professional
You don't have a single youth player who is a patch on Vuckic, Lua Lua or Moyo.
07 Aug 2011 09:12:00
i no this player would not come, he is happy at rangers and woulld rather stay there and win throphies, and will be the captain next season when david wier retires. BUT STEVE DAVIS would be great for newcastle very skillful player and knows how to pass a ball could sit and direct the play or he can also play in a attacking midfield roll
BIG difference from the Sunday league he is playing in to the English Premier League.
07 Aug 2011 07:42:02
Heard from reliable sources at SJP that Les Ferdinands mothers brothers granny is coming out of retirement to partner Ba up front.
We dont do over 30 think she better go down the road thats there transfer policy.....stadium of light getting re-named to alex fergusons retirement home
Yeah true, shes around the 75 mark so she could be confident that Brucie would give her at least a 5 year deal at the club.
At least we will still be in the premier next season byebye
We sure will mate, I agree. Our squad actually looks pretty good mate despite losing Nolan. Those Mackems will be off down to the Championship though, don't you agree?
AS shown with the mighty hibs yesterday i honestly do think SAFC will struggle and that these 9 players that have come in will mostly disappoint NUFC will take back their rightfull crown in the north east
Yeah the mighty leeds looked awesome too
You have lost a lot more than Nolan, and more to leave. You have a weaker squad already, than last season, with very poor expectations of who is coming in. Keep your spirits up by all means but the reality is that things are pretty grim at Newcastle at the moment.
I meant Grimm ( sorry ).
How have we lost a lot more than Nolan? You don't know the mentality of the dressing room right now.
07 Aug 2011 08:16:47
Just reading the paper. Stan Collymore, the know it all of football has given his verdict of the coming season:
Newcastle to finish 18th. Not convinced of Ba as a marquee striker who can be relied on. Lack of investment and the loss of Nolan to be killer blow.
But if Barton stays we can swap places with Blackburn (17th). Wigan at 16th,Norwich 15th, Wolves 14th....Bottom 3 of Swans 20th,QPR 19th and us for relegation. Sunderland - 9th.
I read his verdict on his beloved Villa (8th), 'Bringing in McLeish was an inspired decision.' Stands for no nonesense and gets players playing well'. Really Stan? Relegation last season with Brum? Did they play well? I dont think we need to take any notice of this nonsense and believe we will suprise a few people, especially if we get a decent striker in
Psycho
Not just S.C. writing Newcastle off, Chris Waddle too.
Terms like:
Circus.
Farcical.
Heart ripped out at Nolan going.
Clowns.
Many more.
Barton, Enrique, Collo linked with moves and now Simpson stalling on contract .
talks.
I think 18th is a bit ambitious.
Stan Collymore is a mug. I remember last season he lost his s**t on Twitter cause people were calling him a coke head.
They all wrote us off last year...experts.. ha..some of them even said we'd get relegated the year before that..easy money for gob- sh*tes to sell there papers... just pick on the club having a bad week with most fanatical fans....very lazy dont know what paper he writes in and don't really want to know
And Terry Butcher writing us over hes a Wa*nK*r neva take a cb opinoin nows nuffin (WelshToon)
Well waddle is a mackem anyway he is from pelaw but he actually supports sunderland so no wonder he is writing us off
Why cant you just accept it youre gonna struggle all these ex players cant be wrong in fact 18th aint too bad
Ill say it once again the only person of note that we have lost since the end of last season is Nolan (and he was rubbish today) but we have Cabaye marveaux Denba Ba Ben-arfa back Gosling Vidik and a couple more good youngsters for back up why should we finish further down than last season, if Jose goes its not the end of the world. Ps would love to see two decent (half decent)strikers
Waddlw a geordie and always will be but truth be known the mans a half brain and as for colly well that lad didnt know what he had cos he was so dim Yet people listen to him? Only mackems i add
Unfortuneately for you, most of the contry read The people. Including a lot of football players who it might put off going to Newcastle even further.
In reply to an earlier post, the reason that you are getting so many Frenchmen is probably they dont read English papers slagging Newcastle off.
2009 headlines NUFC to do a LUFC
We win the CL in a canter.
2010 headlines NUFC favorites for a swift return to CL
We finish 12 in the PL and get 4 points from you know who
2011 headlines NUFC to be relegated from PL
We have our normal vote of confidence from the "experts", good news NUFC are in for a great season
07 Aug 2011 05:31:05
What do you guys think about the Obertan deal? Not sure my self, he has looked good for United in the preseason though, and not that expensive either.
Then again its yet another midfielder, and we aren't exactly short of them even if Barton goes, and still not the striker we should be focusing on.
He always showed he had potential at United though but he seems a bit injury-prone. Seems to lack end product as well.
07 Aug 2011 07:53:05
Kerrison is a deal that wont be happenin pardew established a more experienced striker will be needed. (WelshToon)
Yeh but to get a striker like that ashley will have to turf out 10 ml plus to get one of these players so i really wouldnt be suprised if we ended up with someone like kerrison.
07 Aug 2011 00:02:40
Been checking out some formations being touted around. What about these,? Solid back 4.... Krul, Simpson, colo, s Taylor, Enrique. Then depending on t game have a f*** around with these... 1 or 2 holding midfielders, choices : tiote ( always ) pairs with maybe cabaye/gosling/Barton. Centre mid : cabaye, Barton, gosling, Ben arfa, obertan, marvauex. Right side: Barton, obertan, ben arfa, jonas, marvauex. Left side: obertan, marveux, jonas. Att: Ba, shola, sammy, lovenkrands. This is not including the possibility of maybe shane long up front and our youth ie : ferguson, vuckic especially. For me personally we look pretty f***ing strong as a fast attacking club with alot of options if things don't work initially during a game. Let's stop all the worry and get behind the toon n we can shock t s**t outta the prem Howay the toon... Bring it the f*** on
I can't see how people are saying we are so much weaker. We've brought in decent players for little money, and lost one so far..
Sure Nolan was very influential and scored goals, but Ba proved in 12 games last season that given the service, he can score goals.
If Barton goes he will be missed in a way, again for his influence [which has become pretty negative as of late] but also his crossing was pinpoint for the most part last season. Then again I'm sure someone else can step up.
Jose will be the biggest loss if he ends up leaving since we are already weak at LB and aren't making a great deal of progress in looking for replacements.
We have a good looking squad and from what I hear were looking good last night until it got called off...
The football world is shaking
Maybe not the world but most definatley the north east Can tell by the posts that the Mackems are bricking it incase they get totally done in AGAIN Would finish them and SB off Great times