Newcastle Banter Archive April 07 2013

07 Apr 2013 23:29:32
Can someone tell me what formation today? because on tv and nufcblog it said we played 442 but on MOTD apparently we played 4231. Can someone tell me for sure? because I got really excited at us playing 442 and it working.

We started with a 4-4-2.

When Santon went of injured, the formation was switched to 4-2-3-1.

So most of the game it was 4-2-3-1

07 Apr 2013 22:34:53
we are going to put the unwashed in the bottom three haway the lads

07 Apr 2013 18:36:06
I'm not trying to be cocky here or being deluded like sunderland fans, but you can tell by todays performance that we are a top 8 side. Why? I don't see fulham getting 10 or 11 men behind the ball against sunderland, west ham, etc. Hopefully this new 442 system where the defence push up, can drive us on for a 10th place finish with a Derby win, and wins against Liverpool and arsenal, because we looked very threatening today. Ameobi had a good game and looked Sharp, maybe he could start up top with cisse and gouffran on the left. But although cisse didn't have the best game, he certainly looked more comfortable in the 442 where the defence pushes up and the midfielders are closer to the strikers. Plus mbiwa had his best game I think. Marveaux was decent as well.
Team for benfica:
4411
Elliot
Simpson Taylor Mbiwa Anita
Marveaux Cabaye Tiote Jonas
Sissoko
Cisse
Team for scumderland:
442
Krul

Debuchy/Simpson
Taylor
Mbiwa
Santon/Jonas/Anita

Marveaux
Cabaye
Sissoko
Gouffran

Cisse
The Mackem slayer

Tiote needs to prove himself worthy of a start against sunderland by having a good game against benfica and not giving away stupid fouls or possession.

Geordie Moses

Ameobi held the ball up quite well a few times, but he is nowhere near good enough to be playing upfront for us.

Gouffran as Cisse's partner is a no brainer, Gouffran would have scored today too if it were not for an illegal handball on the line.

Here you go again 1 win a last second goal for the third time. Get real man be a supporter of Newcastle but stop talking shyte

Yeah but we should of won the game 3-0 and we deserved the late goal and it was sheer class. Go back to your deluded site mr mackem.

We deserved to win one nil. just one nil. hitting the post doesn't warrant a goal, that's why hitting the post doesn't count as a goal!

one nil was the score, and that's what was deserved!

Hand ball on the line deserved a goal, nobody seems to be mentioning that

It doesn't matter what the score should have or could have been; 3 points in the bag and 3 more against the Mackems give us 39 and we should be safe. If we do that then we play the last few games without looking over our shoulder and push on. 3 goals on Thursday would be nice mind!

07 Apr 2013 17:01:28
I think they care more about how animated di canio is on the touchline than sunderland slipping into relegation! haha LOL

Well let's face it its not really a surprise that sunderland are in relegation scrap, a lot of people I know predicted at the start of the season they'd be relegated. They are what they are, a mid table team (or perhaps relegation fighting team), and mid table teams have to go down like once every couple of seasons.

Yeh same as you's a mid table team, no better, only difference you are lucky 3 injury time goals, some of you still think you deserve top six lmfao

Is it lucky to score in the first minute? Or is it that u start bright? No diff if you score in last! Plonker

07 Apr 2013 16:58:18
MY WORD HE'S DONE IT AGAIN! well done papiss!

And you can't say we didn't deserve it, hit the post 3 times, so unlucky, any other day we would of hammered fulham with those chances. it was quite frustrating in the first half as it seemed we were letting ruiz and berbetov link up. But I wasn't watching the game, can someone tell me who were watching the game whether we were playing good football? because it certainly seemed that the 4-4-2 worked.

I'm not going to get my hopes up too much though, as we still need to beat sunderland and then get a draw, BY playing good football, to ensure we are safe.

Geordie Moses

Fulham were never really in the game, they had a few sniffs here and there, but Mbiwa was calm, cool and collected as always.

It was wave of attack after attack from us most of the game.

There was no phases during the game where we did not look the stronger side.

Marveaux's confidence has grown and he looked the best player on the pitch.

Our defence played higher which let our midfield play closer to Cisse and it made a lot of difference.
We were passing the ball a lot more than usual and created good chances, Marveaux was brilliant, Jonas had his best game of the season, Yanga-Mbiwa was solid, Krul made a couple of important saves and Anita and Gouffran had very good games.
A little worrying how many chances we missed but we got the three points in the end.

We just got unlucky today, but played fantastic, and on another day with all those chances we would of scored. Great performance, get a win against 5under1and and a draw against west brom and we're safe, but hopefully we can beat benfica, because we'll be up for it, and if we do progress through Europe, that will give us the confidence and motivation to really hammer sunderland.

Cheers guys! I'm excited for match of the day tonight!
Geordie moses-a happy geordie :)

Also nice to see gautieraz have his best game all season

We
Played higher because they have no pace up top! Only reason.

07 Apr 2013 16:19:49
Cisse is really frustrating to watch, I really think he should be dropped and Goufran should be playing up top or dare I say it Shola.

Whilst he bangs in the incredible now and again, he is far from reliable.

Gouffran is being played up top.

Still saying that about cisse?

Eat your words.

He has done it again.

I prefer my centre forward not to leave it til 90+ mins. and i'd also like him to put away more than 1 in 6 chances. needs to improve loads!

2 goals in his last 2 games, some people will never be happy.

Cisse is the first centre forward I have been happy with at Newcastle for about 4 or 5 seasons now.

Cisse has just been unlucky all season, he's had no supply all season because of our injuries. But when he does, he either scores or hits the post, what more can you ask?

Hitting the post is just as useful as putting it into the stratosphere.
The Original Poster is dead right, just because he finished right at the last with a great effort, doesn't mean that he had an amazing game. He still missed a couple of good chances and could have set up Marveaux at least once.

Cisse reminds me of Andy Cole at Manu, takes 5 chances to find the back of the net.

Unlucky all season?! What rubbish, you make your own luck.

07 Apr 2013 14:44:01
Team for today- 4-4-2

Krul

Simpson
S. Taylor
Yanga-Mbiwa
Santon

Marveaux
Sissoko
Cabaye
Gutierrez

Gouffran
Cisse

I for one am looking forward to seeing Gouffran play as a striker, it is abouuuut time.

07 Apr 2013 14:39:02
Interesting to see us going 442. Hopefully pardew will set the team up right so we play football like we did last year, and not play hoofball! Hopefully this is what will happen: Gouffran will come short, cisse will go long, sissoko and cabaye will rotate between themselves on who attacks and who stays back. Jonas will stay back and occasionally at throw ins help the attack. Marveaux will do some tracking back but will supply cisse and link up with cabaye, sissoko, gouffran. Debuchy and santon help assist in attacks. Marveaux and cabaye cut in and supply cisse or play through gouffran.

Lets stay positive and get behind the lads and we can win today!
Up the toon! Geordie Moses

I mean simpson will help assist in attacks!
Geordie moses

07 Apr 2013 11:59:39
What do we work on in training?

Defence? If so Pardew and the coaches need sacking because we're awful at defending and the way we set up in defence is basic, sit as deep as possible and let other teams come onto us.

Attack? Again very poor in attack, we basically rely on Ben Arfa to do something special, Cabaye to score a free kick or Cisse to score from the very few chances he gets.

Set pieces? We're dreadful from set pieces I've never seen a team so pathetic from them in all the time I've been watching football. The cross is usually poor then the players who should be attacking the cross do very little Taylor doesn't have a clue what he's doing, Mbiwa makes no real effort, Sissoko is useless despite being six two, Santon is petrified of messing his hair up so stays back and Cisse and Gouffran have no presence in the box.

Keeping possession? Definatly not as we struggle to put five passes together most of our players need at least five touches before passing and we usually surrender possession easily.

Fitness? Not well enough after twenty minutes against Benfica we looked knackered despite the not putting any real effort in against City previously.

Absolutely right if we can not coac the defence to defend & get rid of the ball in their own area as well as Cisse to score week in week out they need go ASAP because this seasOn has been woeful

Agreed! I don't know how we did so well last season! We got found out this season, and pardew has no plan B! We need a manager (unless pardew gets his act together) who can give us attractive football to watch, and actually something we can enjoy watching for 90mins, not something that's so frustrating when you're just shouting at the TV! 442, we play hoofball. 4231, we play good football but get panicky. 4231 at home, it looks like our team from last season. 4231 away, referee is always against us, but pardew sets the team up too defensively.

Look at west brom, they're doing better than swansea and are playing fantastic football. And their squad is not even as good as ours even with our injuries.

its so annoying, pardew needs to prove himself worthy of the job by winning these two games and keep our home form good, then we'll be fine.

We are terrible at set pieces but you cannot blame Mbiwa or Sissoko.

Taylor goes up for set pieces, Mbiwa stays back so how can you blame him?

For me Mbiwa has been our most consistent player and our best signing, we are very lucky to have a player of his quality.

Sissoko has probably been out best player at winning headers, so I do not know where you are getting that from.

The problem with our set pieces is the movement, the players try the same thing every time.

The team are not trained with any kind of idea in mind for corners, the idea is to just lump it in and hope the ball drops lucky.

07 Apr 2013 09:25:11
big game for you lads today a win and I think it will more or less put you safe anything else and its alarm bells ringing although there are a few sunderland fans thinking di canio will work miracles today I can't see us getting anything today and thou not sounding bias our 5 games which I think we can get something from start next week in the derby. if wigan win today and neither of us win today next weeks derby could be the most important in both our clubs history. well lads let's hope we can both get something today as i'm one of those lads who think the premier league needs teams like sunderland and Newcastle in it.

Next weeks game would not be the most important game in our clubs history, we have been relegated before, and even in the very unlikely scenario that we lost against Fulham then played you, it would still not be the defining game. I can see 38 points keeping teams safe this season as Stoke are dire. Sunderland get to play Stoke, that should be your big chance.

We are not in this relegation battle, our squad is just too good, no one at Newcastle is truly worried this time.

It is a whole different prospect for you lot though.

I actually think Di Canio is a good appointment, you had to roll the dice, there was no other option.

And the news that Di Canio can be let go if you get relegated is good news as that leaves your options open.

I was gutted when Newcastle went down, but I have to be honest, I ended up enjoying our season in the Championship, winning every week is a nice feeling.

You have to be good enough to bounce straight back though, and that does not happen as regular as it should with premier league sides that drop down.

If you think about it, since our new signings our home form has really picked up as we've won every single BPL game at home since the new signings. So I don't really have any worries about our next 2 games against fulham and sunderland, although I do have a worry that pardew and the team will crumble under pressure and start playing hoofball then we lose stupid games. If we play like we did against chelsea, then we should sail past fulham probs 1-0 or 2-1, then comfortably beat sunderland 3-0. Di Canio brings motivation, but how do you know he's going to do well. If you lose against newcastle and stoke, then your down.

With your defence you are not going to keep clean sheets, your goals against are among the worst in the prem, so in the real world you won't sail past any team.

Well i'm a newcastle fan and i'm massively worried about relegation!

Some sensible banter for a change good luck to both sides today lads