Newcastle Banter Archive August 04 2011

04 Aug 2011 22:11:56
Newcastle to lose Barton and Enrique soon, and no plans to spend any more money in this window. Club will continue to make bids for players that they know will be rejected. I'm a fan btw but people need to get real, WE ARE NOT GETTING ANYONE ELSE IN MA HATES US FANS AND ENJOYS MESSING WITH US. As much as thus pains me it's true, heard the Ashley part from a mate who's uncle was in the Barry Moat consortium, Ashley never planned to sell

Earl doors looked promising in the transfer. Market now starting to think he's raping the club .
Annoying I've become one of the doomerchants just pray I am wrong

It's becoming all too familiar, bid accepted and can't agree personal terms. Personally think we are lowballing players knowing they wont accept so we can say well we tried sign people blah blah. Think plenty of bids will be accepted but we will offer much less than they want so they say no on purpose. Let's all hope 1 or 2 say yes so Ashley has to buy them or find a different excuse as I'm getting bored of hearing 'they want too much money, we made a great offer to him as well' BORING sick of it find another excuse FCB

I am surprised that the campaign to get him out has gone quiet. Some fans are just living in hope, but there is none. He is asset stripping the club and everyone is just standing looking on. It has always been business with him, he bought the club to make a profit. He couldnt sell the club on regardless of Barry Moat and so now he is going to sell the family silver.

Barry Moat was Ashleys stooge it was all staged, he was never going to sell

Wow our club is like a conspiracy theory with Ashley in charge. Staged takeovers, sending players to Ghana with visa problems as a cover up so he can sell them. -.-

How do you think he is worth £1.3 billion?
Do you think he is a man of integrity.
Do you think he made it by being a gentleman business man?
You make that sort of money by being clever and ruthless.

04 Aug 2011 21:40:41
something unbelievable has happened its now 1 and 1/2 hours since someones posted any s**te on here usually every 5 mins

You've posted some s**te.

Well, you spoiled that then.

I love this site but thought i would have got more bites than 2

You know you're lifes pathetic when you sit behind a computer and try to wind people up.

You'd get more bites if your bait was good, just a word of advice. I get loads on your s**tty page.

At least he can count.

I guess thats a step up from some of the Mackems on here.. One guy told me Newcastle haven't played in Europe for 17 years.. Imagine his horror when I informed him that the 2003/2004 season was not 17 years ago.

His excuse was that he didn't care about NUFC or their history at all. Which is why he was on this page talking about us.

04 Aug 2011 19:24:40
hopefully with the 2mill of routeledge we can offer better wages to barnetta.

04 Aug 2011 17:31:10
Staying. Going. Staying. Going. Can somebody please (Ed?) put the Barton thing to bed for me? I.e, has he been released (therefore paid off) or not?

{Ed042's Note - Not released, still transfer listed as things stand, both parties have agreed to not discuss his future for the moment, been given a chance to right the mess hes caused the past week by Pardew, think he is fighting his corner for him with MA to be honest, but its up to Joey now, behaviour has to improve if he really wants to stay, otherwise he is going on a free, not being released so no fee due to be paid by toon to him for outstanding contract.. its not put to bed just yet mate unfortunately but today was a good day in a bad week, hopefully can get back to football matters instead of handbags}

04 Aug 2011 15:08:02
newcastle should try and sign
2 players.
LB- warnock or mbengue
st- sturridge(loan)
'mike ashley might let barton stayasweell

04 Aug 2011 14:36:27
pardew skipped over questions about transfers dont think he know him self ..he never really said owt of any importance ..oh yeah he phoned alex ferguson..about twitter ...( or was he phoning for berbatov ) as elvis presley sang if i can drewam) but there you go ed your thought m8 geordie tom...

{Ed042's Note - Will go on a bit here for anyone that missed out on the press conference... Joey situation well handled by Pards, credit where due, subtle but very smart PR move, stated how it is, whatever the scenario, airing dirty laundry in public is good for noone at the club, affects the club he says he loves, and also said that the door is never closed to him, but that he needs to pull in the same direction as the club and at the moment he isnt... Joey is left with two choices now, either pulls with the club and leaves it all out of twitter, proving his loyalty.. or two, continues twittering and showing discontent publicly.. in the 2nd case he will be got rid of and made to look like all the love and loyalty, wants whats best for the club stuff seem fake.. very well handled... also using Utd as an example who agree with this stance and asking advice from SAF on how he handles it, no better man to ask.. generally well played by Pards

As far as the transfer rumours, never expected him to go into it, was consistent regarding wanting to get 1 or 2 signings in the door, is aware we do need them, and when questioned about Barnettas agents comments also answered very honestly in that 40K a week is a good wage for a footballer, and he didnt want to air more dirty laundry or bring more bad PR on the club by commenting or reacting specifically to what the agent said...

Conclusion on it all being I think people should give Pardew himself a break, was honest, didnt avoid any questions, fair enough didnt go into detail about transfer targets etc but I wouldnt expect him to.. overall handled a very bad week well IMO what do others think?}

Agree with the above but surprised no clarification about tiote

{Ed042's Note - Wasnt asked I suppose, Tiote is due back today from what I have heard}

Cheers rd

Well said ed, pardews press conference was spot on, but there is a lot of fans who will disagree just for the sake of it we cant even praise pardew on Newcastle blogs these days without getting abused

Well done ed thats about right.

04 Aug 2011 13:46:29
barnetta agent says not a hope in hell of
him joining toon due to low wages being
offered, also said he would join arsenal,
liverpool, man utd etc for them wages but
not toon......what are we playing at?i
can see any good players joining, we are a
laughing stock....
source sky sports news

Neither arsenal liverpool or man utd have offered a carrot for barnetta one comment says he is on 40000 another says we only offered 40000 ANYONE HONESTLY KNOW HOW MUCH HE GETS NOW AND HOW MUCH DOES HE WANT

If he's not playing European football (which he would be at Leverkusen, Arsenal, etc), then he'd want more than £40k.

04 Aug 2011 13:12:04
If pardew had it in him, he should walk out now, tell the higher power to stop taking all the best players from beneath him, but then again, if you believe the rumour, pardew owes mr Ashley a lot of money and is working for free to pay off a debt. So little chance of that. D.

No. Ashley just brought in a yes man.

04 Aug 2011 12:47:20
Newcastle United look set to fail with their initial bid for Swiss star Tranquilo Barnetta, .
Barnetta's British representative Barry McIntosh has acted with fury at Newcastle's offer for the player.

McIntosh claims that Newcastle have offered the player less than what he currently earns in Germany.

"As it stands there is not a hope in hell that he will be going to Newcastle. In fact I am angry at their attempts to do it, and behind my back also, " he told skysports.com.

"They have made an approach, but their offer equates to somewhere in the region of £40,000-a-week - which is just ridiculous.

"Why on earth would Tranquilo move to Newcastle for less money? No offence to Newcastle, he would possibly consider going to Arsenal, Liverpool even Tottenham for less - but not Newcastle.

Well it looks like we are once again not looking like signing a player due to the owners not being prepared to splash out any money

Seriously get a grip.. You don't walk into a contract negotiation and offer maximum wages straight away.

What gets me angry over this statement is that he would join other premier league clubs on the wages that we have offered but not us if that is the case then move on to another target we have had our fair share of players only here for the money with no commitment to the team and dont want anymore

04 Aug 2011 12:41:25
Anyone know what time par dew is talking to the media

04 Aug 2011 12:16:50
Well Ashley and his Puppet show do it again They bid less than half what Wigan want for Nzogbia, KNOWING that it will be rejected, but then say we tried, Bulls**t, now they offer Barnetta LESS wages than he is already on KNOWING it will be rejected, then will say, we tried, Bulls**t, Now that clown that Man u want rid of, Oberton, probs offer half what Man U want and half his wages, will be rejected. Ashley you may have hoodwinked half the clowns who post saying your doing a good job BUT, the real fans, the 40 years and more of support fans, KNOW you are an ARS****E and want you OUT OF OUR CLUB. Newcastle United is in our Blood and a little fat cockney like you will go before we do, one way or the other TOON LOYAL

Rather sinister end to that rant mate, your not related to Raoul Moat are you?

{Ed042's Note - Haha quick get Gazza on the blower, tell him to bring a few cans}

04 Aug 2011 11:56:41
dont fret sgb's heskey carew still available in your'e price and wage region ha ha

Nah m8 your the club that signs has-been's smb

Haha id have either off them over connor wickham at least they are experienced in the pl lol

How many players have you signed that have EPL experience, NONE, and they have no experience of english football, so go crawl back in your hole and cry about it. Wickham was bought for the future before any one else got him, I bet your singing his name soon when he gets the No 9 shirt for England

Andy Carroll will wear the number 9 for England long before Connor "I can only score 9 goals in the second tier of English football" Wickham..

He got his debut at ipswich when he was 16 and now he is 18, one for the future plus a few geordie's have siad they would have wickham. just another geordie tool you are

Why do you constantly say "geordie's" It Geordies.. Did you not go to school?

I'm sorry, was he 16 last season? No.. Carroll had 1 year on him in the Championship and scored 19, and before you give me the "he was played as a midfielder" craic, Nolan scored 16.

I would have him here, yes. But for for £8m. Maybe £2m.

Carrol had only scored 4 proffessional goals before he was 20 so in what world is that a better record than wickham when he's just turned 18?

Lol, are you serious? Carroll was a reserve player for us then.. He actually scored a few goals in the Premiership the season we went down when he actually came on.

Carroll was 20 in the Championship, 2 years older, hardly a massive difference when you've been in the reserves for years, and still scored 19 goals in the Championship.

If he played in the Championship when he was under 20 he'd still have scored more than 9, I'd put money on that.

He did he played for preston 12 games and scored 1 goal. wow haha SGB

Check wiki and see the difference between Carroll in his early years and Wickham after his 1st 2 years and you will see Wickham scored 16, Carroll scored 0 goals then 1 at preston and 3 in the premiership the season you went down, not to mention Carroll is 4 years older than Wickham

04 Aug 2011 11:51:04
nufc unofficial quoting barnetta's
agent, says we offered £40k a week
stating it as rediculous and is offended
that we would offer such a low amount

figures...

....And then by the end of the transfer window, the management will come out with the usual excuse of "well, we did TRY to make some signings".

This routine shouldn't come as a surprise to us anymore.

04 Aug 2011 11:30:26
Hi just back from a weeks holiday and disappointed that we haven't moved forward in signing a striker.

Got my tickets for Arsenal game and feel we are missing agreat opportunity to beat them as their defence is looking weaker than last season and we have no players to take advantage of that. Together with huge uncertainty over Fabrigas and Nasri (both could be gone be then with little time for replacements). Worried that Gervinho will have a great game against us, just to show what we missed.

Still undecided about the Barton situation, but with whatever has happened and Enrique clearly wanting to go we need to get them both out of the club as quickly as possibly with hopeful replacements being Barnetta and Warnock, both players would offer some experience and in Warnock's case premiership experience.Should be able to get both players for Enriques fee and with Routledge sale cover wages.

Would love to see Sturridge bought or loaned but we don't seem interested. So I think it's time Asley showed some real intent and sign any two of these players Defoe 7m ish, Sow or Odvaldo 10-12m (very unlikely, Ashley won't spend that much), Lens 7m ish or Wellbeck 7m ish(even loan).

Onmaho (sorry terrible spelling) from Man City would give cover at right back or centre half and he won't get much game time at Man City this season 3m ish.

If Ashley is just selling to pocket as much as he can before selling (hopefully), who's going to pay the money he wants with a thread bear squad of players and no stars of any great value. We don't own the ground so all we have is fanatical support with 50,000+ turning up every other week. (Legin)

Onmaho haha. onuha

Its onouha

Wont be 50,000+ for much longer

04 Aug 2011 11:04:52
joey barton sick and tired of hearing about him.what people dont see is he's being told what to say off his agent..forget about barton folks .the teams bigger than barton we are NEWCASTLE UNITED ffs.i recon we need 5 players in cant name names..we can bandy names all day long.but we'll never know untill we get new faces thru the door...geordie tom

04 Aug 2011 10:37:05
We should just ignore Barton's twitter comment's until he has the decency to pull on the black and white shirt and wear it with honour..... we shouldn't give this egotistical dimwit the platform he craves. I don't know if he is telling the truth or not, there are two sides to every story so please stop twittering on and give your ego a rest.

Sick of players whinging and crying on, if they put as much energy into earning their money they would only have good things to tweet about.

Stop being so tweeing negative

04 Aug 2011 10:27:05
Nothing other than my opinion Barnetta will likely be signed along with, Shane long, Wayne bridge...

04 Aug 2011 09:57:51
who would come to club who are selling all there best players mike ashley making the club worse i am a newcastle fan but i dont see anyone wanting to come here

Most players would want to play in front of 52,000 of the most fanatical fans in England if we're cheering them on... but not, if we're making a hostile atmosphere that would also just put off the players we have now...I would like to see St James bouncing all season and maybe that would make some rich Arab or rich anyone want to be part of it and buy Ashley out.....sorry day dreaming again

Youre dead right there mate

The singing sections gone this season that was the only bit of atmosphere left at st.James, if you started signing anywhere else in the ground last season all the plastic fans that should be at the rugby would look at you like you're a complete psychopath rather than join in, the derby and the second half of the arsenal game were the only times it was truly bouncing like the old days

Yes i agree with you, but i did say i was day dreaming again.... but it does go to show..'that back in the old days as you say'.. when everything is happy and the ground is buzzing there not many places better to play football and we could get the players we wanted and still could if the will was there

04 Aug 2011 09:31:26
Apparently we have opened talks with Barnetta, with the player keen to move it sounds like we may get him. Clubs need to agree a price, so we will begin to find out if tubby is actually going to start to back the team on the pitch. He has under 4 weeks to repair the damaged image of the club, so lets see what he is made of.
Col

04 Aug 2011 06:10:58
What about Figueroa as a replacement for Jose?

Would love to see Onouaha come in to push Simpson and offer cover across back line.

Sturridge would be great but can't see it happening so IMO we should go for Long, has everything AC had but wit more pace, mind not sure anther he could drink as well like?

I reckon that would do as in Marveaux/ Tiote/ Cabaye / Gosling / HBA / Jonas we have a good midfield with Guthrie (under rated IMO), and kids such as Vukic/Ferguson/Ameobi etc coming through I think web would be fine.

04 Aug 2011 00:00:00
Ed here otherwise known as KRTOON.. follow me on twitter @keithrtoon.. more followers I get the better chance of getting some good reliable info for everyone that keeps this site buzzing with rumours and banter.. will help out with trying to get the writing out there and noticed as well.. cheers lads, appreciate it

Now following.

Hey KRTOON you've prob already gave your opinion on the current situation and I've not seen it further down the posts but just wanted to know what your thoughts are on things?

I personally think these players (Barton, Enrique etc are atit and trying to play mind games with the fans?

Geo

Enrique situation is simple enough, wants CL football and wants to become a regular in the Spanish side, good ambitions to have and fair enough. The twitter comments were where he let himself and fans down big time. Simply trying to engineer a move, annoy the board and lower his asking price, bad form.

As for Joey, look everyone has thrown their two cents in, and I could go on all day about it but I wont say much other than this.. ever hear the saying "I send you out a sheep amidst the wolves"... Joey is the opposite, a wolf amidst sheep.. Anyone that really knows the his character, not his apparent friendly personality, but his character, would know whats what... Some of the things he has done and continues to do behind closed doors at football clubs including Newcastle is well beyond unprofessional, it is disgraceful.. all his publicly known criminal crap aside, that isnt even the half of it trust me.. this lad is run solely by his ego and is far from stupid.. them two put together can be dangerous in the wrong hands, will leave it at that.

KRTOON