Newcastle Banter Archive September 02 2014

02 Sep 2014 16:50:48
I'm actually sick of pardew now, the fact that he's hounded two of our best players out of the club is disgusting. The fact that a champions league/serie a club wanted m'biwa makes a statement itself!

I'm tired of watching dire football week in week out, i'm tired of watching us struggle against the likes of palace and losing derbies, i'm tired of pardew not being able to get the best/manage flair players, constantly playing players out of position. All these signings, I can tell you now, are graham carr signings, if carr wasn't here, we'd be watching the likes of bent every week.

All these players have declined under pardew and were regarded as highly talented before they came to us:

M'Biwa-Captained montpellier to the ligue 1 title at the age of 22, comes to us to cover right and left back. PARDEWED.

Sissoko-The next patrick viera, a box to box midfielder who won young french player of the year, comes to us and gets play right mid and CAM, looks half the player he was. PARDEWED.

Cisse-Second top goalscorer in germany, has a good start with us, then pardew decides to play him as a target man and on the right wing. PARDEWED.

Gouffran-Scored 14 goals in one season for bordeaux as a striker. Comes to us to get played as a left midfielder to cover the left back. PARDEWED.

Marveaux-Almost went to liverpool before us, a very neat and silky player as a CAM, comes to us to get played as a right midfielder, looks half the player he was at Rennes. PARDEWED.

Anita-He became one of Ajax's most versatile and key players, played at CDM, RB and LB, looked very good, looks a completely different player with us. PARDEWED.

I want pardew gone, and the decisions made last night were the final straw. I wanted to back him, but i've last all respect for him now.

IMO its a no brainer to replace Pardew with a top young modern coach. We need to move along with the times, like Everton have done with Martinez, like Spurs have done with Pochettino, even like Sunderland with Poyet. No more Pulis/Moyes, they are dinosaurs in football and are a sidestep to pardew in terms of quality and brand of football.

Frank de Boer is the perfect manager. He has in fact spoken highly of us before, "I see opportunities at the sleeping giants of england, at Liverpool, Spurs and Newcastle" he can work on Ashley's budget, and also his knowledge of the youth academy would really benefit us and Ashley.

Surely if Ashley wants to continue this regime, it makes sense to get a manager like FDB, who can introduce a new brand of exciting football right to the grass roots of the club, start recycling players with the youth academy, and not having to spend millions. FDB is the man who can keep the profits coming for ashley and make us a successful club. He could essentially make us The Ajax of England, which i'd be more than happy with to be honest as long as it brings us those top 7 finishes and cup runs, and possibly cup success. The problem is, will ashley see this and will FDB want to leave Ajax mid season? Carr does a lot of scouting in Holland, maybe he might recommend him to Ashley.

For me Frank de boer is the only one who has the motive and strong personality to work under this regime, and he's the only one good enough.

Sorry for the long post, just had to get it all out.

No manager of any integrity will ever come to replace Pardew Ashley only understands money and any one will only consider this job if the money is great

Worse when we try in January to avoid relegation no decent pkayers will be interested and if they are it will be for money and lot's of it

100% behind you JToon

who loans out a CB with no cover for him

Ben Arfa out of contact at end of season sent out on loan until then, then will go for nothing

A great post Jtoon. You have really summed up exactly how I feel. It is sad but I almost want to see us lose and get into trouble so Ashley is forced to act.

Your idea on FDB is a great one, perhaps graham carr and lee charnley can persuade ashley. If not then Steve Bruce or Stuart Pearce could do a good job for us.

If Ashley's business model is to buy cheap and develop then he clearly has the wrong manager and coaching team in place.

If his business plan is to bring the club down then The only other candidate for the job would be allardyce!

Talk about hitting the nail on the head Jtoon!

Totally agree

Yes, we all want Pardew out and a real manager in, but Bruce? Pearce? Remember Agent Bruce down the road? And I thought the only man who could do the job was Laudrup. Fact is, we're stuck with P45 for the time being so the constant whinging and speculating, while understandable, is just a waste of time. The transfer business will keep the gullible masses turning up for the time being, and I think we should give the new lads time to gel before the usual doom and gloom gets out of hand.

Vic I have never been a doom and gloom merchant. the reality of the situation is Pardew should have gone when he head butted meyler.
He crossed a line whereby players no longer will look up to him or respect him. If your boss acted the way Pardew does I'm sure you'd look for another job and you certainly wouldn't turn up for work committed to giving your all.
we have a good squad but the players lack any direction. I agree we need to give them time, just look at Man utd, but they have a manager who commands respect and has a clear vision of how he wants the team to play.
I'm not sure what Pardew has. I am accepting that we are in a bad spot right now and Pardew based on his past results is not the man to turn it round. In 3 seasons we have not seen much progression, indeed we have seen our bst players go backwards or leave. In any other profession you would have been sacked long ago, yet we give him 30m to spend?

Desree: not getting at you personally, like all of us you're sick and frustrated, but Bruce? Signed - what was it, 14? - players then sacked by (spit) Sunderland. And what's Pearce ever done? I'm fed up with reading on here that we need Laudrup, Martinez, Bielsa - now it's De Boer. Fact is, like it or lump it, P45 won't get sacked just because we all wish it so. Two matches to save his job? I may be wrong, but Ashley stuck by him last season when things were much worse. Just guessing, but I reckon he's got at least ten matches to show that the new signings can do the business. Doom and gloom? Maybe not, but there's a lot of unthinking gloom about. For instance, what if our CB pairing by, say, November, is Good and Lascelles; what if Riviere gets off the mark and a bit of confidence? Why are some "fans" determined to piss on the season before it gets properly started?

Vic the key difference is that Bruce has progressed since then. Pearce can develop young players, Martinez can produce an attractive brand of football.

What can Pardew do. Riviere is no striker from what I have seen. based on the past two seasons the defence will get worse.

When a manager loses the dressing room it is impossible to improve.

Dead Right Desree

02 Sep 2014 12:35:20
"How can I make myself more unpopular than I already am?. oh I know I will loan out our best centre half and most creative player at the club, that should do it"
Objective achieved Pardew now jog on!

02 Sep 2014 06:57:38
ben arfa confirmed for a season long loan to Hull, MYM off to Roma and every team around us has strengthened significantly on deadline day.

We on the other hand weaken our squad and as per usual non of the supposed targets materialise.

Yet again, what ever positivety I had for the team, manager and owner is gone in the space of two weeks.

This isn't managing a club well, it is gross negligence!

"Supposed targets" only exist in the fevered imaginations of gutter journalists, the bloggers who recycle newspaper rumours and the gullible fools who believe this s***. And who said that Krul and Tiote were certain to be sold to line Ashley's pockets? Wrong and wrong again.