Newcastle Banter Archive July 02 2013
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02 Jul 2013 22:12:41
we are not signing PEA - Dortmund are
we are not signing Bony - West Ham / Swansea
we are not signing Mertens - going to Serie A
we are not signing Bent - Too old
we are not signing Ince - Swansea
we WILL be left with a bare squad again when we sell fringe players like Obertan and when we lose quality like Cabaye and we bring in relatively unknown players that will make little impact.
#BadTimesAhead
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Totally agree mate. Its shocking how we keep putting up with this circus. Don't worry some pro Ashley member will tell us its fine and to keep the faith.
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I think Obertan gets a bad press at Newcastle and we are in fact a better team when he is in the side, which is supported by the fact that he was a regular when we finished 5th and barely played at all last season which we all know was abject. I am not saying he is a world beater and he certainly lacks final product, but unlike Marveaux who flaters to deceive for 89 minutes of the 90, Obertan is an excellent outlet with his pace and takes the pressure of the defence. Still, I would replace both Marveaux and Obertan with someone who can impact the game with greater regularity.
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Obertan is the worst player to wear a Toon shirt. Your either a mackem or never seen him play.
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I agree with both comments Obertan is a poor player however I understand what the other poster is saying when teams played us with Obertan in the team they had to worry about his pace and getting caught out from a counter attack despite how poor he is take him out of the team and the opposition can defend close to the halfway line and pin us in our own half without the fear of being caught out.
Basically we need a new winger with pace.
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02 Jul 2013 22:09:43
I think we should go for ola john. 21, 22 yrs old, we need a winger, he's very quick and got a great cross.
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It would be very interesting to see him play alongside Sissoko and Ben Arfa.
He looked excellent at the U-21's tournament where he seemed to be playing the role of both winger and striker at times. Very cool in front of goal and not afraid of putting in effort around the midfield either.
It's just a shame that his release clause is believed to be around €45 million.
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02 Jul 2013 21:45:01
Kinnear rambling on about how he managed Wimbledon Nottingham forest Luton and two years at newcastle! try six months and look where the other teams he managed are now say nee more mind!
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02 Jul 2013 16:26:26
This team went unbeaten 11 games in the best league in the world.
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Krul
Simpson Saylor Coloccini Raylor
Obertan Cabaye Tiote Jonas
Ba Best
This team could easily match that
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Debuchy M'Biwa Coloccini Santon
Ben Arfa Cabaye Sissoko/Tiote Marveaux
Cisse Aubameyang/Bent
we haven't had a very good few months and have had a terrible season. I just hope we are pleasantly surprised with a few top signings like Aubameyang maybe and get off to a really good start to the season, and maybe go on course to have a season maybe like 11/12 just maybe.
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I'd love Aubameyang at the club however I'd pull the plug on this it's turning into a saga like Luuk De Jong last Summer and I worry that we're focusing on him too much that we could miss out on other targets.
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We have missed the boat on the PEA deal. He said he was interested and wanted to play in the PL. I doubt we were really serious just another way for Ashley to get his poor puppet Pardew to use the same excuse. " We tried, but just couldn't get it over the line ". Story of this whole window I fear.
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02 Jul 2013 15:17:42
Dortmund have agreed a £13 million pound fee for PEA. A lot less than we apparently bid fro him last week. let's see if our leader is willing to match this. Give a true insight to his true intentions for the club either way. £13 Million surely we can match that.
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Source?
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Could easily match that but not the champions league football he'll get at Dortmund no brainier really, not coming here
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Sources: tv, NUFC BLOG, German Football paper and Sky Italia. PEA openly said he would be interested in Newcastle and the PL is where he wanted to play. I would guess we never even bid as soon as MA found out the price was over 10 million.
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And tv has picked up on it
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I give up on our club we will end up with carlton cole.
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Dortmund in champions league and top german sides pay decent wages looks like his slipped through the net
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02 Jul 2013 15:01:56
Dortmund agree a fee of 13m, isn't that what we bidded? He would be such a great signing, if we lose out on him I will be so angry and frustrated its unreal. We cannot possibly lose out on yet another target.
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02 Jul 2013 14:22:19
What about a move for Oscar Cardozo? Although he's just turned 30 I think he still easily has at least 3 years left at the top. He's about 10x more lethal and proven than this PEA or Bony we seem to be continiously linked with are and would only command around a £10m transfer fee. He seems to be available from Benfica and since Cardiff City have been linked I don't see why we shouldn't be going in for him. This is the kind of signing we want.
Darren Bent at £6m would also be a steal and silly to say otherwise. Proven he scores goals in any team if he is played. Ex Mackem or not, that would be good business for us.
As for this Kurt Zouma nonsense, be serious. NUFC haven't enough money to be punting £10m on an 18 year old that has barely played any first team games. Not many fans will have even seen him play so stop trying to claim he's world class and we should sign him. We would be much better off trying to sign Vermaelen, Richards or Lescott for CB cover.
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It annoys me when people say we can't afford him or won't pay that. Have we forgot that we have a billionaire owner. If Ashley wanted to he could easily put up £50 million this window. Not for one second do I think we need to spend that but he could if he wanted to.
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Ashley won't buy cardozo because he doesn't have a sell on value
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How would we be better off trying to sign Richards? He spends most of his time in the treatment room.
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No we should defo go for zouma he's a regular starter for them anyway and is one of the most highly rated defenders in the world. cardozos too old, although I agree with bent and richards
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02 Jul 2013 11:18:11
Is it just me or does anyone else think that JK is a socially-path. Bloke doesn't know when he is lying. Ashley needs to stick a muzzle on him. Latest one is he was manager of us for 2 years. Stick signing players JK and keep your trap shut.
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Joe Kinnear also built Rome in a day.
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I think the doctors need to reevaluate JFK's cardiac meds as the prescription he is currently on is making him lose grasp of reality.
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02 Jul 2013 10:46:27
Lineup against man city:
___________________Krul__________________
________Yanga-M'Biwa_____Coloccini_________
Debuchy___________________________Santon
____________Sissoko_____Tiote_____________
Lallana____________________________Ben Arfa
_____________Cisse______Aubameyang_______
Subs: Elliot, Taylor, Zouma, Anita, Marveaux, Bigirimana, Bent
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That would be nice but the only way this will happen is on the playstation sadly
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02 Jul 2013 08:21:49
don't get me wrong, I love Cabaye, and every away game I sing the the same cabaye song. but let's be completely honest. the guy hasn't come out and said 'I want to stay' . if the club gets offered between 15- 20 million, take it! go buy siem de jong, Ideal replacement! as for the strikers! Darren bend at 5 mill would be a very good signing, you know he will score! PEA may take some working on. but if he's talking about us, then that's a good vibe being given!
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I totally agree mate, i'm getting more of a feeling now that Cabaye is becoming a player who plays for himself, i'd happily take 20-25m for him and go an get maybe de jong or lallana.
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We won't get anywhere selling our best players. He needs to stay and build a team around him and Ben Arfa.
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Cabaye is my favourite player but even I have to admit he did not step up last season. At all. And I am starting to think he's batting his eye-lids at every pretty boy that comes along.
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I agree Cabeye wasn't great last season but when the ball is constantly played over his head their is not a lot he can do. Our standard of football last season nullified what he is all about.
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Cabaye was as poor as every other player which wasn't a coincidence but what do you expect him to do carry the full team by himself?
Also he was playing fine when he played for France during last season maybe it had something to do with players actually having movement off the ball so he had someone to pass to whereas our players were lazy last season there was only Gouffran, Cisse (nine times out of ten he's offside) and Debuchy (our RB) who tried making off the ball runs the rest stood about waiting for the ball. Pardew put him in one of the CDM positions to pick the ball up out of defense and pass but who is he supposed to pass to when there is hardly any movement?
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