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29 Apr 2013 22:25:13
Loads of strong rumours spreading around that Pardew is set to be sacked at the end of the season with Rafa Benitez lined up as a replacement. Apparently he's already accepted the job.
this is IF we are in the premier league.
I won't hold me breath on Rafa coming. I would of thought a French english speaking coach is what we should be after.
Rafa probs can speak fluent french.
29 Apr 2013 22:16:20
Hey Sunderland, turns out it's not that difficult to concede six, eh? At least we got hammered by a decent team and hopefully that's shut you up for a wee while.
PS, don't get relegated - we all love derby day in spite of whatever the result is.
IM chuffed in a way they got beat by 6. All day the mackems at work have been saying "whats wrong with you Alan? looks like youve been hit for 6 har har har"
Guess what you're getting tomorrow Ian!
Geordie Al
Dont laugh too hard, even if its very funny, but that puts Villa on the same points. The mackems think its great that they are above us. that's the limit of their ambition.
"At least we got hammered by a decent team"? Does that honestly afford you any comfort or consolation whatsoever?
By this point we need to clutch at every straw we can, if that's conceding 6 to Liverpool as opposed to relegation threatened Villa, I'll take it.
29 Apr 2013 22:15:11
villains smash the 6-1 which is sort of funny but puts us in a worse position, even lambert can get a weaker team playing attacking football and scoring 6. something that pardew can't do. the way we're playing, unless we change, I can only see us getting a point from the next three games, think about it, west ham away. they're strong at home but qpr away will be just as hard, because of the way they play football and they will play with no pressure. Arsenal will probs tear us apart.
The fact that we haven't got any wingers suggests to me that we should go with a narrow formation (pardew probs won't do this but its an idea)
4-3-1-2
Elliot
Simpson
Coloccini
M'Biwa
Haidara
Cabaye
Tiote
Sissoko
Ben Arfa
Cisse
Gouffran
This allows ben arfa and gouffran to provide the width, ben arfa going in a free role, also giving cabaye a bit more freedom and tiote being an anchor man which is something pardew needs to do with cheick.
Id drop tiote and mbiwa. Mbiwa hasn't got a clue about relegation battles. Taylor is in them every year ha
Wasn't in it last season.
Ok then, every season apart from last season and the season we were in the championship, happy?
Why leave out Saylor, it was Mbiwa constantly stepping out leaving Saylor deep and isolated that did for us saturday.
29 Apr 2013 22:02:57
ellis short thinking of sacking di canio after conceding 6, thinks a change might get a reaction from players in there bid to reach safety
Sunderland fan
Not exactly been a week for the North East
We are both in the sh*te and desperate
You know what they say about from being temporary and class being permanent.
That is the difference between us and them.
We are expected to be at the top of the table and get laughed if we are not in the top 6.
Sunderland getting a beating from Villa is kinda what you come to expect.
We will see! still very confident on wearside our goal difference took a battering but we still better off than yous lot (class it makes me laugh)worth a point
Why. Why' do we expect to be top six! On the basis of what? Attitude needs to change I am 49 and we have one trophy in my life! Get real
Hilarious.
No one expects you to be at the top
Why do we expect top 6? Well if you be positive and ambitious in life you might actually acheive something, if we just try and condemn ourselves to being a mid table club we will never win something for at least another 30 years. Do you actually listen to what ashley says? He said he wants newcastle to be in the champions league, that was his 5 year plan when he first joined the club. And finishing 5th is maybe overachieving but we need to build on that, but right now pardew is taking us backwards. look at our squad, its defo top 8 quality, but is not performing because of pardew's lack of managerial and tactical skills.
29 Apr 2013 22:02:05
ive got a smile from ear to ear I work in sunderland and I've been tortured all day by people shouting 6 all I can say is what goes round comes round
Sunderland fan
We deserve all the crap you can give
29 Apr 2013 21:41:29
Players we could take on the cheap from relegated clubs:
QPR:
Remy (maybe) could be too expensive and might not take him because he ditched us, but he's a damn good player and he's the sort of striker we've been missing.
Samba-wages could be a problem, but experienced and a very good player.
M'bia-replacement for tiote? About 5-8m, good utility.
Aston villa possibly:
Benteke-unlikely too expensive
Sylla-looks a decent player, another possible replacement for tige if we are to cash in on him.
Agbonlahor-similar type to remy, but he's a bit too lazy and inconsistent.
Weimann-young prospect who looks like a very flairy attacker, what we need.
Lowton-very promising young player, would be good cover for debuchy.
Bent-Ino he used to be a mackem, but bent is also the type of player we need, give him a chance and he'll score.
Positions we need new players in:
Youth GK
RB
LB (if santon leaves)
2 CB's
CM/CAM (if tiote leaves)
2 STs
LW/RW
And also.
Pardew out Benitez or Blanc in.
Bent is crap, stop touting him to us. If he can't get into a Muckem team without a proper striker then why on earth would we want him?
We will be the relegated club. And we can kiss goodbye to Cabaye, Ben Arfa, and Krul on the cheap. couldn't really care about the rest
Wigan will be the relegated club whether we get any more points or not. They will not beat Arsenal or Villa
29 Apr 2013 19:45:04
Just watching villa v sunderland. garry Neville talking about how he thinks Newcastle have gone too far with foreign players. Look, English players have got a premium, we've got bargains for multiple French players, I personally think one of the problems this season isn't because we've got too many foreign players, its because we haven't got a manager who can speak French or actually communicate with the lads. Someone like blanc or benitez, city and arsenal have loads of foreign players but they actually have managers who speak their language and get them playing attacking fluid football.
Gary Neville talks a lot of sense. What he doesn't know about us is that Pardew continues to play people out of position which is criminal especially when they match up against someone who is very comfortable in there role.
Sorry but I can't make any sense of your post.
Never was a fan of Neville, but Ido think he is first class on sky, changed my op. better than keys and grey by a. Country mile
Yep, Neville is far and away the best pundit on there. He'll trash Manchester United if their performance was poor, always gives credit and knows what he's talking about. {Ed001's Note - pundits don't often say what they really think, more what the producer tells them to say. My uncle had a stint on a BBC channel as one, when United were in Brazil playing in the World Club Cup. He was told he had to say things about how all of us were wanting United to win, backing the English club etc etc or that would be the last time he would work for them. As a Liverpool fan, he found that extremely difficult and didn't enjoy it at all, but it paid the bills, so he did as he was told. I doubt Neville is doing anything different, he just does it very well, with the helping hand of some excellent producers (who choose all the clips used etc to illustrate the point of view they want to make).}
Ed, never a truer word spoken mate.
29 Apr 2013 19:00:41
Can anyone understand why Pardew keeps changing formation but still continues to play long ball football? changing formations won't deal with the problem, playing FOOTBALL will deal with the problem. Passing to feet, movement, going forward together, pressing the ball high, defending together and having set pieces that work - none of this has happened this year. I think we will stay up thanks to Wigan, however Pardew must go. The next manager needs to be able to stamp a style of play and be able to speak French!
It is extremely baffling. Wonder is Pardew knows?
The manager should not change to suit the nationality of the players, that's r*******. You're right about his tactics though.
29 Apr 2013 18:51:27
I'm hearing rumours that Pardew will go in the summer, and that the manager being considered for the role is Rene Girard. What do you think Eds? Adam
Yeah I've heard that, don't really know much about him
More like rene from allo allo!
29 Apr 2013 17:52:36
SAFC fan here in peace. Honestly now I know we're both in the s**t but realistically I can see Villa or Wigan going down. You will be safe along with us. But I want one thing from your fans next season, don't think because you had a good season last time that you're going to be in the top 4. The amount of raw cockiness I saw from some or your fans was unreal. The fact is that our teams are not good enough to battle the top 8 at the moment. Even as a Sunderland fan it sickens me to read our fans saying "We'll be top 6 next season because of PDC" when in reality we're one of these 13th, 14th placed teams that pull away by the end. You are also the same. You are not a "top 4 team" or even a "top 10 team" at this stage. Neither are we. So please mags, next time you think you can reach top 4, have a quick note of how football actually works. It's a results game. If they aren't good enough then you won't be playing with the likes of the Mighty Dortmund and Barca. Goodbye.
It was only this time last year we were pushing for top 4, but that's how quick things change, if you ever reach the heights we did last year you would want to push on and atleast do as good the following season. we didn't lose any 1st teamers in the summer but we didn't add to our weak squad, so you would think at worst we would be mid table which for me would be disappointing, the position we now find our selves in is nothing short of disgraceful, thanks to ashley/pardew.
i must admit i'd be very dissapointed if the the club didn't atleast target european qualification at start of the season.
I agreed with you until the cocky goodbye. Thing is, you will always be in our shadow. Bigger club, better fans, better (individual) players and much much much more internationally known. I mean, have you ever seen a mackem in Milan?
Geordie Al
Hold on now, this is where I get the cocky geordie thing from. You're telling me that you're a bigger club? Then why oh why are you on the same amount of points as we are? Stop being so h***ing deluded and switch the reality on for a bit. "Forever in our shadow" is the stupidest thing I ever heard. You weren't saying that when you got relegated. You won't be saying it if you go down either. If you do go down, I will come back on here and really gloat about being in your shadow. You're on the same amount of points as we are. Stop thinking you're a better club. As I said, it's a results game and if Newcastle are not getting the results then they aren't a good team, neither are we I agree but to be honest at least I am proving to you that I am not a deluded Mackem that thinks we are a "Top 6 side". We are equal this season, that's what counts.
29 Apr 2013 16:14:34
A lot of things have been said about the manager lately. Our manager has NEVER managed a succesful team and improved on it. When Debuccy, Sissoko, Mbwia, Hadaira, Goufran came in January they ALL looked great signings yet once our manager and coaching staff got hold of them, they have went backwards. Debuccy cannot defend, Sissoko played out of position, Goufran, pace to burn but our manager prefers Shola stiff legs, AND most worrying is Mbwia having to play alongside Steven Taylor. We have a squad of footballers and a Hoofball manager. Benitez would get these lads playing an attacking formation unlike Pardew. Pardew/Carver and Stone need replaced as in my eyes they cannot be teaching our squad anything on the training field, hence our Worst goals against, Worst away record and MOST long balls played pathetic tactics. Relegation? Could cripple the club.
29 Apr 2013 16:03:37
bad enough losing 6 0 to the scousers but having to shout for the mackems tonite has made this a very bad weekend Des Toon
29 Apr 2013 14:08:52
i'm hearing lots of rumours on twitter about how tv newcastle mick lowes or someone said that pardew is set to be sacked at the end of the season with Rafa Benitez lined up as a replacement. Not sure if its true though because it would cost a lot of money, but rafa does get teams playing stylish attacking football and he does win trophies. It would either be benitez, blanc, moyes or poyet for me.
According to inside sources it more than just a rumour.
Yep. Heard this also.
Ed, what is your take on this?
Toonal {Ed001's Note - I would look at what Balague has to say regarding it, if I were you. I don't know what he has said, but he is very close friends with Rafa, he built his reputation on the back of info from him. So I would think he would know better than I, or anyone else apart from Rafa, in this instance.}
But do you think there is a possibility of this happening Ed? {Ed001's Note - difficult to say, I have spoken to friends of his from back home in Liverpool and none of them have heard anything. But, he might have been told to keep his mouth shut by either Chelsea or Newcastle, if it is true, to avoid giving the press something to disrupt the end of the season for either club. It is not like him to keep quiet though, either way. Normally he is an open guy. I will ask around a bit further, someone must know one way or the other!}
If it helps Ed I heard this from one of the players dad. So it wasn't your usual sisters cousin boyfriend rumour. {Ed002's Note - If the job becomes available, then rene Girard will be interested.}
29 Apr 2013 13:55:02
If we go down does anyone know if the new players have a relegation clause?
Even if they do not I reckon we will lose Krul, Debuchy, Mbwia, Gouffran, Cabaye, Tiote, Cisse, Sissoko, HBA, Collo, Marveaux, Santon at least and Simpson as he is out of contract.
You're an person. Last time we went down we only lost 2 first teamers, by your reckoning we will lose a team!
I agree with the 1st post, World Cup is coming up and no1 will be in the team playing 2nd tier football. Fact
29 Apr 2013 10:34:34
I think the team should go back to a 4. 4. 2 and learn how to play the very basic formation before we start using more complex formations.
It is clear that the team has no shape.
Time to start getting the basics right before we can even dream about advancing our football.
How about starting 4. 4. 2 and learning how to take free kicks and corners, it is disgraceful that this has to be said but it is the truth.
Pardew has a Premier league team set up like a school boy team.
If you cannot dominate a midfield with a 4. 2. 3. 1 or attack using a 4. 3. 3 then something is clearly wrong.
Tiote is being used like Xavi, Ameobi is our supersub, Gutierrez is our width and we have a 500k rookie inbetween the sticks while the Giant and dominant Harper sits on the bench.
You have to really ask what is going on there.
The formation Pardew plays would work fine if he played the players in the correct position. He his tactically clueless.
I kind of agree with going back to 442 but only if pardew is prepared to pick the right players for that formation to work + I think some of the French lads might have to sit out the last three games.
My team for West Ham would be
Harper
Simpson
Williamson (if collo is not fit)
Taylor
Haidara
BenArfa
Cabs
Tiote
Marv
Shola
Cisse
No Simpson, Williamson or Shola. 3 passengers there. We have enough of them already. You would drop sissohko?
Agreed back to basics and what made us difficult to beat last year. So hate to say it but Joans needs to play. I'd go 4-4-2 against West Ham and make sure we at least get a point. Sissoko is knackered and needs a rest, Mbwia has lost heart and Gouffran has been worse than Obertan as he does not help out the full back. Benny needs to start and just be told go and play and Cisse needs to be told what the off side law is.
My team:
Elliot
Simpson Taylor Collo (Williamson if not fit) Haidara
Obertan Cabaye Tiote Jonas
HBA
Cisse
Sissohko has Lost heart due to been played out wide. He was the only one who looked interested on Saturday.
Jonas, willo, simpa and gabby in the same team. You got to be a Mackem or maybe Pardew himself. Either way that team is awful.
Fools all of you.
Clearly some players and suspended are injured and will not play the remaining fixtures. Team for Saturday should be.
Elliot
Simpson Colo Mbia Haidara
HBA Cabaye Sissoko Marveux
Gouffran Cisse
29 Apr 2013 10:25:02
SAFC fan here. you are lucky that you don't have 7 or 8 games left. u would go down. as it is u will stay up but only just. cannot wait until we beat your asses in both derbys next season. The toon will burn off the person s you have as supporters (not all are loons only a small minority especially the bell end who punched a horse)
Largey your kidding right. Have you seen the table your in the same situation we are. Your lucky your gamble to change your boss paid off as you would be in the bottom 3.
Mackems win a coupe of games and the false confidence comes again. First derby win in years. We in on the same points you clown.
You are getting all mixed up, the clowns were rolling around their own penalty area while conceding 6 goals on Saturday.
Haha yh, your right mr mackem except we probs and hopefully won't have pardew in charge and have benitez, blanc or martinez so it will be back to normal where we kick your asses twice a season. typical deluded mackems win a few games and they think they've won the champions league.
Wow 'largey', you look like an absolutely person now.
Largey back, nice to get a bite, yes we were crap last night but QPR may suprise you while a win against Stoke and then another against Saints will be more than enough. A win for QPR and that's the only game you have a chance of winning but Wigan will take remaining spot to go down while Mags will take 17th place.
I will leave in peace for now
29 Apr 2013 07:13:40
What are peoples views on the whole Pardew to lose his job and Rafa in rumour?
I am not a massive fan of Rafa - he seems to spend a lot and get not alot. Liverpool fans love him though. Hmmm
It's a very strong rumour. Maybe it why Pardew looks like a broken man. Not convinved by Rafa but he wins trophies.
Rafa doesn't look like he could be a long term manager at any club, he's a bit blunt although he does get a team playing attacking football.
Rafa seems to be an option and maybe Blanc. One of the two would be a good move. For me Pardew has shown his innepetness time and time again this season.
Although we have had injuries, we appear to have an almost full strength team. It looks like he may have lost the dressing room.
There is no way whatsoever Benitez would come up here to manage Newcastle, strong rumour or not. He is way past the level of manager for this club.
Wins trophies with huge squads full of expensive players which he would he not have at SJP. He is also more negative than Pardew. I'd rather see us take a punt on Martinez. I know Wigan fight relegation each season but he has to sell or lose his best players each season and replace them with mediocre ones who he again turns into good ones and so the cycle continues. He will have more money and better players at SJP and you cannot say his teams don’t play good football, in fact last season Sir Alex (love him or hate but he is the best) said Wigan were the best team he played so imagine what he could do with all the technically gifted players we have in HBA, Marveaux, Cabaye, Sissoko, Obertan, Campbell etc and even Jonas and Obertan. Whether we stay up or not get Martinez and at least we will see some good football. Liverpool took the gamble on Rodgers and look what he has managed to do in a short time, has got a group of technically gifted yet underperforming players under an old school manager playing entertaining, quality and winning football. Martinez could do the same for us.
Mentioning him twice still doesn't make Obertan technically gifted
Wait and see. It's going to be Rafa.
No way, this owner does not pay top dollar salaries, which Benitez can command. {Ed002's Note - If there is to be a new manager you might want to read up on Rene Girard a little.}
LOL yes I did mention Obertan twice, still think he is technically gifted just lacks the guidance and coaching to bring him on. He has pace to burn, works hard and protects his full back which we have been lacking. yes frustrating at times but rather him than JOnas or Gouffran out wide.
Rafa is hardly bigger than Newcastle.
He ruined Inter Milan and the only job he could get was the part time Chelsea job.
How many top managers are desperate enough to take a glorified caretaker role while the club they are at finds someone better?
Sorry you can keep rafa, for me di matteo would be perfect plays good football and would probably be able to work with the type of players our scout has found for us, unlike pardew