Newcastle Banter Archive May 28 2013

28 May 2013 17:09:00
On a PS note from the Ben Arfa post, I would have thought Newcastle should go back for Andy Carroll. He seems to be enjoying life at West Ham but I think the reason he is delaying a move is in hope of a return to Newcastle. should be your no1 transfer target in my opinion

Totally agree after all we are nufc not the foreign legion

''Totally agree after all we are nufc not the foreign legion''

Oh geez, do we have an EDL supporter hijacking our page now.

Keep opinions like that to yourself and out of our football club please.

Nufc are losing their identity and need a source of local lads playing for toon wether we have to pay millions to bring him back, hardly think its racist.

We have Campbell and he cost nowt as well as Taylor.

Local lads Taylor, Campbell, Harper, Shola, Sammy and Dummett were in our first team at some point this season.
And with local youngsters like Alnwick, Streete, Newton and Richardson looking to be involved with the first team next season we seem to be ok.

I did not say it was racist.

The 'EDL' are not racist so I am not sure where you would get the idea I was inferring as such.

I am talking about a local and nationalist ideology. ''It is better to have more of us than them'' kinda backward thinking.

Do you not remember us starting the season by giving young players a chance? look how far that got us.

If the local talent is there, sure, but right now its not.

How can you support Newcastle as a team and having something against the amount of French players?

And Btw, we had the 2nd most amount of English players in our squad in the Premier League last season.

We just happen to source our foreign players from one country mostly now. It is not an invasion of the foreign legion.

Ben Arfa practically forced through his move to Newcastle on his own because he wanted to play at St. James' park.

Please do not let the club down with small village type thinking.

Ranger was 'English' and look at the nightmare he was.

Fact: We are giving academy players a chance. What more do you want?

I shudder to think where we would be now if Sammy, Shola, Ferguson were 1st teamers and we did'nt sign any players over the New Year window.

''Nufc are losing their identity and need a source of local lads playing for toon''

Yes, because our first 11 has been packed with local lads in recent years, and bringing in foreign players is a new thing?

If you want to be playing in the Championship with a team of players based on their location then fair enough.

'Nufc are losing their identity and need a source of local lads playing for toon wether we have to pay millions to bring him back. '

Exactly which local lads do you suggest we pay millions for to bring back? Carroll - not exactly a world beater worth breaking the bank for! Any other world class local lads out there?!

While I don't exactly agree with filling the team full of French players I think we have bought some very good players for good value fees. Yes would like to see a few more British players brought in, but not for silly money. A Tom Ince or Scott Sinclair would be nice in my opinion.

Carrick?! ha

28 May 2013 15:19:05
You lot come on our site, sayin we don't have a chance in signing descent players
Look at yourselves, give your head a shake and wake up
Every player you think will go to Newcastle on this site will not, not a chance, these players are top, top players, why would you think they could possibly play for you

Because we are a bigger club than you, give your head a shake, we already have top, top class players like cabaye, ben arfa, krul, m'biwa, coloccini, cisse. 52,000 fans cheering your name, sold out away tickets to see you play for Newcastle United. Players like Aubameyang, Bony, Ince, Samba would all be attracted to newcastle simply because we are one of the biggest clubs in the land, Why do you think we are constantly linked with the likes of Aubameyang, Bony, Remy, Samba, Ince when you are only linked or sign foreign players i've never even heard of. You simply cannot compare sunderland's transfer rumours to newcastle's. I assure you we will be better next season, A LOT better next season.

Don't think so, not with your present owner, and manager. You are a big club only in your own minds, you say it all the time, so you have come to believe it. If you have top class players then how come you were nearly relegated again, and why do your fans whinge on these pages constantly, saying if your manager stays he will take you down next season. This "Big Club" thing you have is just tripe and shows your insecurity in any banter with Sunderland fans.

That's why your world class players under your world class manager finished 5th bottom you have waited nearly 60 years to win something and it will be another 60 years before you do. as for having large crowds that counts for nothing ask wigan Swansea and Birmingham over the last couple of seasons and boro the last north east team to win anything and don't get 20k now

Newcastle destroy sunderland on comparing fanbases. We are still a big club despite the season, we've had, we finished 5th. We've had a long list of legends that have all played and managed us. Even forest, west ham, villa are a bigger club than sunderland. You've beat us ONCE in the last like 5 or 6 meetings. We've won more derbies against you. Just because we haven't won a trophy in the last 45 years does not mean we aren't a bog club. We have finished in the top four more than you have in the past 20 years. I think if you ask any football fan apart from a mackem, who is bigger sunderland or newcastle, Newcastle would have the highest amount of votes.

I said top top class players not world class. Top class players who are wanted by the likes of arsenal, Manchester united, Milan, Liverpool, spurs, monaco, psg.

Everyone is shocked at the bad season Newcastle has had.

Point being the squad we possess means we should be at the other end of the table.

Most pundits experts are more shocked that you stayed up this season, Sunderland are where they should be, in the dog fight at the bottom.

You will be going down next season with Hull, you are both hot favourites.

The only player with any international type quality is Mignolet, and he is off. LMAO.

Totally disagree, with your manager it will be you and Hull, you only stayed up this time because of injury time goals. The cockneys will take you down again, even though you are a much bigger, absolutely huge gargantuan club. HA HA.

I am afraid you are totally wrong there.
Some pundits had you odds on to struggle at the start of the season, they were proved right.
Only some self righteous, deluded Geordies had no doubts at the start of the season and where did you finish?
One place above us, what heroes.
LOL.

They only had those odds because we didn't spend, sunderland were predicted to go down anyway LOL!

7th post, totally agree! as would neutral football fans!

Your saying, you are a better club because you have more seats in the stadium
Hmmm
So what you are saying is, that Newcastle are better than, Man City, Chelsea, Spurs, Liverpool, Everton, Swansea etc
Give your head a shake

Ok, let's say I have a big rusty, old, broken down truck, the person next to me has a small, posh, expensive Ferrari,
I suppose I have the better vehicle with my truck just because its bigger
Make sense=NO

Wtf? At no point did I say whichever clubs stadium is bigger makes them a bigger club. I am only comparing that between sunderland and newcaste simply because sunderland are nowhere near as close as newcastle are to the likes of man u, liverpool etc. Even Di canio knows that newcastle are bigger than sunderland, he said that he wants to try and overtake Newcastle during his time at sunderland. The proofs right in front of you, you just need to realise it, that's why I'm not going to carry on arguing.

28 May 2013 10:53:42
Out
Tiote 10m
Harper free
Simpson free
Williamson 1m
Obertan 3m
Gosling 2m
Jonas 3m
Sh Ameobi 1m
Amalfitano 500k
Abeid 500k
Coloccini
Potentially Cisse 15m to dortmund
Income 21m-36m

In
Chris Samba 9m
Loic Remy 8m (release clause)
Pierre Emerick Aubameyang 11m
Mohammed Diame 3.5m (release clause)
Marko Marin 7m
young goalkeeper 2m
Potentially Tom Ince 7m and Charlie Austin 6m or Wilfried Bony
Total spent 40m-51m

They would be dream transfers!

_________________Krul_______________
Debuchy___Samba______M'Biwa__Santon
__________Cabaye_____Sissoko________
Ben Arfa_________Marin______Aubameyang
________________Remy_______________

Dortmund don't have 15 million to spend on Cisse.

They are losing Lewandowski for free, and they will follow the model of picking up players that will increase in value.

If Dortmund had 15 million to spend on a striker, they would likely give it to Lewandowski and tell him to stay.

In:

Kolo Toure - Free

Arshavin or Saviola - Free

Belhanda 10 mil

PEA 12 mil

Cost 22 million

Out:

Tiote 8 million.
Obertan 2.5 million.
Gosling 1.5 million


Net Spend - 10 million.

That would see 4 new players coming in. (The players with experience that are required coming in for free, given a 4 year contract then they can leave for free again)

And all of these of the wage bill since the start of last season.

Tiote
Harper
Simpson
Ranger
Ba
Obertan
Gosling

Why anyone would want Samba, Arshavin or Saviola is beyond me.

Dortmund aren't losing Lewandowski for free, they got to the final of the champions league and finished second in the league they got 30m for Goetze so they've got money unless I've missed something?, but I doubt anyone would pay 15m for Cisse ( if Cisse is worth 15m does that mean Jelavic is worth 12-13m? after all he only scored one less goal than Cisse in the league).

Would love samba! We need experience in the side, plus he's a major aerial threat from set pieces!

JMW

''Why anyone would want Samba, Arshavin or Saviola is beyond me. ''

It would become more apparent if you had seen them play more than a few times.

Do you think Saviola would played for Real Madrid and Barcelona if he is not up to much.

Samba is a solid centre back, wages maybe a bit high though.

Arshavin is world class, Wenger seems to be doing a good job of sabotaging his career though.

*grabs popcorn*
Go on, I can stay here all day and watch you silly silly people, think you can get these players
Because its always possible they would refuse to play for top teams and go to you lot, lol
Do you know anything about football, Lewandowski for free!! How d'ya think of that!
DELUDED, JUST DELUDED

So because I wouldn't want them it means I've only seen them play a few times?

Yes Saviola was a very good player but he is way past his best, maybe we should try and tempt Owen out of retiring after all he played for Real Madrid, Liverpool and Man Utd

Samba looked good at Blackburn because he was the best of a poor bunch just like Dann and Johnson at Birmingham when they were relegated.
Also how old is Samba? 30? 31? On wages around 100k-120k?

And Arshavin I'd rather have Dan Gosling in the team at least he'd look interested in playing.

7th post, that's one person who said that. Compared to you mackems who think you will buy Erik lamela for 15m or think you're going to spend 50m in the transfer window.

I'm a Man U fan
7th post was Man U fan

28 May 2013 09:48:19
I think these are the priority positions of players we need:
Striker-I'd say we go for Pierre Emerick Aubameyang and Wilfried Bony, not sure we'd pay the money for both of them though.
Centre half: Sakho, alderweireld or lescott would be good or just okore and sakho or someone if Colo leaves.
Left wing: Tom Ince or Scott Sinclair for me.
Goalkeeper: just a young gk for about 3-5m
Right back: Lowton or Matthews

Youth gk 4m
Lowton 5m/Matthews 5m
Sakho 8m
Okore 4m
Tom Ince 8m/Sinclair 5m
Aubameyang 11m
Bony 12m
Diame 3.5m (if Tiote leaves)
Around 51m spent
There's no way wed get all of these but if we have a major clearout then we could get most of them.

JMW

I forgot to add Marko Marin on maybe a a loan or a buy of aronud 7m

JMW

Sort of agree with the original poster, but can only see us going for Aubameyang or Bony (10m max - they'll pay no more, then move on). We definitely need another Centre -half but I think only 1 will be bought (max.6m). If Collocini leaves I would think Williamson stays unfortunately. Totally agree with Sinclair or Ince but can't see us bidding any more than 5m. I think a back-up young right back will be looked at but 3m at most, and think you could possible add another midfielder into that as well as rumours are Perch, Gosling and Obertan have all been told to find new clubs. P. s. wouldn't be surprised if the young GK as Harper's replacement was Alnwick - promoted from within. I expect signings to be made as I would hope lessons have been learned, but can't see any more than 30m spent, including money from sales brought in.

Re-post, I think we will be more likely to get Aubameyang AND remy, remy's cheaper and proven he scores goals.