Newcastle Banter Archive August 28 2012

28 Aug 2012 23:11:33
This isn't necessarily a rumour, but is Spanish striker Xisco on loan at the moment or is he available to play, havn't heard anything about him recently... Surely with the striker problem we currently face he deserves at least a couple of substitute appearances, as he never really has had a chance to prove himself, just saying.
What do you think Ed? {Ed001's Note - he is back at the club, you know he has recouped about 3.2m in loan fees during his time with the club? I have not seen enough of the lad to judge him, but he needs to either play or leave for his own sake.}

28 Aug 2012 20:06:41
apparently alan pardew "cannot wait for a week to remeber"

He never said a good week or bad week. i expecting a bad week. already prepared for the bad news.

Or he's just talking about the fact we can get into europa league?

28 Aug 2012 18:58:33
I don't understand why everyone is jumping on the we hate Ashley bandwagon again atleast wait until Friday night once the window shuts.

Agent ashley

... and if nothing happens we'll STILL get the Ashley lovers, home 'accountants' and those that love an attractive balance sheet (but not a football team) plus those hooked on his 5 year plan (that doesn't exist) coming on and asking us to give him time.

28 Aug 2012 17:53:54
I have been very dissapointed with our transfer business so far this window. Last year we made great strides forward finishing fifth, we started to play attacking football and many in the team looked like top 4 players. This is why this window has been so frurstrating i thought that we would try to build on last season and bring in the players that our team is crying out for. Anyone can tell that debuchy would be an improvement over simpson and that we need to get a new cb and younger striker through the door. Anita was definetly need

28 Aug 2012 17:15:13
love the way newcastle fans now love mike ashley 12 months ago he was the worst thing to happen to use!

He still is m8 they are waking up to reality

Love Mike Ashley? You have to be mad.
The guy has no love, respect or ambition for this club and its fans.
How long is it going to be before ALL the fans realise this? 5 year plans, empty promises and balanced accounts mean nothing and certainly not success.
He was going to put in £25mill per season and give us a team to be proud of.
Yeah - right.

Don't worry, it shouldn't take too long for Martin O'Neill to bankrupt Sunderland. He's good at that with his clubs. Take a look at Leicester and Villa

Safc will never be bankrupt with ellis short in charge,the man is considerably richer than agent(future glasgow rangers owner) ashley.FACT

Can't wait for the derby. the makems go into hiding for months when we beat them, which is most of the time.

Just like you lot did when skp tortured you.

28 Aug 2012 17:09:08
well weve lost 6 players and brought in 4.in smith,guthrie,lovenkrands and best amounts to approx. 120 k a week in wages plus the wages of kadar and forster,the 3 youngsters weve signed will be on approx.5k a week and anita about 35k.
this gives us a wage possitive of around 70k a week enough to pay another 2 first team players which is what i expect us to sign.
we are also touting tiote/cabaye for potential big money moves i think 1 will go to pay for the return of andy carroll,also think graeme carr has a replacement midfielder lined up but we may need to sell before we can buy .
all in all i expect 1 player leaving (tiote) and 3 in possibly carroll,debuchy and mvila...that wouldnt be to bad would it..del

Tiote is the one player we can't afford to lose. If we had to lose him or Cabaye I would lose Cabaye. Hopefully keep them both though.

What about the 200m+ since AC was sold it is a disgrace having to penny pinch to satisfy Ashley

28 Aug 2012 15:36:40
Personally don't know who is coming in at all, I know Andy Carroll, Debuchy have been linked with us, but they have all summer, can't see anyone going out which a massive plus itself if it happens. If we do make a signing I think it will just be the one. Would prefer it to be Mattheu Debuchy. Can't see Newcastle paying £17million for Andy Carroll, but I would love the return of him. I believe we will sign a defender and then sign a new striker in January when Papiss Cisse and Demba Ba go to the African cup of nations. (ToonThomas)

They won't be going acon tho

28 Aug 2012 13:33:58
I am never surprised by some sections of Newcastle supporters, before we started last season they were moaning that we would get relegated yet we finished 5th way way beyond anyone’s expectations, including my own. Now there are fans still moaning on saying we will finish outside of the top ten etc and that Ashley should go cause he has not splashed the cash blah blah blah. I think its time to be thankful for how far we have come in such a short space of time and to be realistic going forward. We have bought players, yes they are young, no we probably won’t sign any big named player in the transfer window and we should be more than happy to keep the players we have. I would be more than happy if we can finish in the top 6 and win a cup which we are currently in for three. I think some fans need to check their expectations for the club – we will not win the league for a long time and to finish in the top 4 is a massive step forward for any club and hard to do, see where we are at Christmas always a good indicator of which teams are doing what in the league.

We did well last season because we signed some decent players in the window, which took us beyond some of the teams in our vicinity, (ie. the Fulhams, Evertons, Mackems, Villa etc.).
This season other teams have invested and so far we've done nowt.
Conclusion? We become one of the 'also rans' .... again.
As the old saying goes - stand still and you eventually go backward.

Disagree with the first post, if you dont see that each season you need to re-invest with with some decent talent to stay in with the pasck then u need to give your head a shake. Top four is still some way off for us and i dont think ppl are talking about it. But keeping up with the pack is a must and that means re-investing in first team talent. doing nothing will not take us forward.

If you are going to push on you need to keep improving. We are not asking the world. Just for 2/3 good players to keep us competitive. It is obvious to everyone where we can improve so why cant Ashley see it?

Our team is getting stronger and gaining more premier league experience all the.... so that puts us in a much stronger position alone than this time last year ......but I would love to see some more top signings to push us on to a higher level even quicker

I have never heard such a defeatist post, Why should Newcastle fans be happy to be a midtable team with no ambition? We have the 3rd Biggest stadium in the league so where do you come up with this idea that we should pull our porridge bowls back in and keep quiet. Newcastle has the Stadium, outlay, support, demographics to be a top club so I for one will be enforcing the idea that our club should be living up to its Giant status instead of pretending to be another average team. Lets be honest, It is a disgrace that most of the younger fans in football do not even recognise Newcastle as a big club as it has been that long since we lived up to our status, Most kids these days think we are like Fulham & Everton. (It is time the sleeping giant woke up)

Agree last post and it is shocking that we have to keep making excuses for the no football sense owner
Some fans are happy we are still going I am not and want and expect more
Swansea Everton and a few more who can not or should not be able to hold a candle to us look like they are serious and we can expect some hard games from teams who think we are weak in certain departments!

Well said yes younger fans have no idea of the history of this club just like Cashley and older fans making excuses about the economic climate and some clubs that have struggled have sold their culture and passion down the river.

I wrote the first post, at what point did I indicate lack of ambition? I clearly pointed out that there are a section of fans that have written off the season already! I said that I would be happy with finishing 6th and winning a cup, is that not ambitious? For F**k sake, im 36 and seen Newcastle go from nearly dropping into the 2nd division under Ozzy to nearly winning the premiership under Keegan and Sir Bobby. What I am talking about is stability, this is Pardews 2nd season, what do you really want? Ashley to pile loads of money into to the club on s**t players like Mr Shepard did? I don’t think so, we have bought in players and we have long term injuries back! We don’t need massive investment and as shown last season we wont pay stupid money on players i.e. Man U paying 23 million for a player who is 29 and in the last year of his contract! That’s madness. For me I would rather see us keep and develop the players we have now and only add to the squad if the price is right for the right type of player. I trust Graham Carr, his record speaks for itself and I trust the board to get the best deal for the club. Which they proved in getting rid of Carroll and bring in Cisse.

Oh, and I forgot to say. I am sick of people banging on about how we are a big club! if your talking about stadium size and fan base then yes we are. But if you are talking about trophies then no we are not, we haven't won anything to shout about since the fair cup for god sake! I want Newcastle to be a top club, that has to start somewhere and winning a cup like I said in the first post is a start and shows ambition and is also a realistic target for Pardew's 2nd season. How long did it take Sir Alex to win his first trophy? oh yeah 5 years!

Of course we are a big club...we've done everthing but in the last 50 years. runners up in cup finals, in league, champions league, uefa cup, europa league, championship winners(lol), big name signings.

We are all singing from the same hymn sheet and want the same thing for our club, I think those of us who are critical of the original post are not critical of your sentiments, Trophies has nothing to do with being a big club, There are teams in the championship with plenty of trophies (That is Liverpool type fantasy thinking). Big clubs are clubs that are big right now, Good squads, Fortress home grounds and being a team other teams hate to see in the fixture list. We need 3 players to be that, We have watched the name of the stadium be sacrificed and accepted it under the thinking it will pay off if it pays for that extra player. (Which we are not getting) It is pretty simple, the club is big enough to not be buying and selling to break even on transfers every window, At some point you need to invest something if anything at all.

28 Aug 2012 13:17:54
Getting sick of people defending Danny Simpson on here, personally i think Marge Simpson would do a better job, he is absoloutly crap. Can't cross to save his life, backs off and some of the stuff he does is beyond belief. Last season he backed of Aaron Lennon and a goal came from it, but two seasons ago the exactly the same playedr got the ball in exactly same posiition and yet again simpson the same player backed off, and the outcoe was the same the ball ended up in the back of our net. I'm sick of hearing about his goalline clearences aswell, is that all he can do. I would love to ask Alan Pardew what he sees in Simpson. I just hope we get Debuchy in cause he is sheer class, him and Santon are miles above Simpson and Ryan Taylor. I just hope we can get him in before August 31st, tb h id be willing to pay about £10-12 million for him, just aslong as we get him in.

I agree that we need Debuchy, Simpson looks like his head is somewhere else. I am still not convinced about Santon, He is great going forward and has a lot of pace which is what you need against wingers in todays game but he needs to work on his defensive duties. If it were my call to make I would have Gutierrez play left back as he works like an ox and can tackle which seems to suit him more than left wing, I cannot remember the last cross or pass into the box from Gutierrez that was turned into a goal.

28 Aug 2012 11:20:28
5th of february 2010 Newcastle 5-0 Cardiff
5th of february 2011 Newcastle 4-4 arsenal
5th of February 2012 cisse scores on his debut
Why cant we not play the mackems on 5th of february

Sounds like a good plan.....but remember 31st october is a good day to have a demolition derby

It matters not when we play them. Why would we be bothered about when we play a small team.

28 Aug 2012 10:25:07
This is what in my opinion might happen after reading a variety of articles and twitter feeds

Cabaye to Arsenal or Man Utd 15-20 mill
Collocini to Man City (if they fail to sign top target from Bilbao) 10-15mil

Ben Arfa to Stay
Tiote to stay

If this happens then Debuchy and Douglas in and a Midfielder (probably a suprise player lined up like Cisse was)

Newcasle also after a young striker someone with pace rather than height and power. Loic Remy fits this bill

Two out and four in. Stronger squad but weaker first XI.

I wouldn't believe anything in the press. Newcastle is a very tight lipped these days and everything you read and hear is pure speculation and gossip. Papers have to fill the sports page.

6 transfers before friday lol.

That is a lot of business, 2 transfers would be a surprise.