Newcastle Banter Archive August 26 2013

26 Aug 2013 21:36:55
We should sell cabaye 16-20m sell krul 9m sell Arfa 12m, Cisse 12m and buy two exciting wingers a powerful striker and a decent goalkeeper like vorm etc good but cheapish. Also a centre midfielder, spend around 10m each position bar goalkeeper.

Those players apart from krul are inconsistant.

Don't know where to begin with this. So I'll just finish y saying Vorm wouldn't be that much cheaper than Krul.

{Ed002's Note - How about Fraser Forster?}

26 Aug 2013 21:24:07
Like most people I am getting a little worried. and this might seem like a totally daft remark to make. But I think I would like a cheeky little bid to loan Demba Ba for the season. I think he would give a good moral boost. He isn't getting used at all. And has proven he can do it. I must add that I know there is no way this would happen but I would like it.

26 Aug 2013 18:08:45
If its right that Arse-nal want Cabaye AND Krul then I think Fatty will sell them and we will be right in it. Our squad isn't the worst, its the coaching team and manager that needs replaced BUT not with Kinnear. Can anyone tell me what Steve Stone brings to the table? John Carver is like Terry Mac, just hanging around Newcastle collecting wages for what? And we all know Pardew just says and does what he is told to. French internationals who come to us looking good sharp go downhill when our coaching staff get a hold of them.

Steve Stone is just a hanga on who once made a quick quip about SAFC on national radio and thinks he's Peter Kay! He's useless - always has been and always will be! What NUFC need is a complete clear out but it ain't going to happen as too many people have their noses in the trough! Baz

Get a grip the way the team plays is down to players and manager

No - don't agree. A good coaching team can make a poor team one helluva lot better than they are.
Problem is - we haven't got one!

26 Aug 2013 14:31:55
Pardew to go to palace zola to newcastle best news ever

I want mancini or Jorge jesus

Sorry but kinnear will take over when pardew walks

Keep dreamin

Mancini haha deluded mag once again.

Not really deluded, realistic for the stature of the club but not realistic under ashley

26 Aug 2013 12:56:26
question - which player, value 10m or less, would you like to see replace Cabaye?

Manuel Fernandes maybe, Wijnaldum

Anita is a ready made replacement

Omar Abdulrahman

Anita?

I wish I could say different, but he is not good enough.

Bigirimina is very similar, we would be safer developing Bigi and moving Anita on.

Agree that Anita has shown nothing since he came to PL

You are blind, Anita given the chance will be a great player for us, one of the few who can actually time and spot a pass imo. Bigi is a tiote clone.

Bigi is already better than Tiote in my opinion. One of the few bright spots of last season.

To be fair, it does not take much to be better than Tiote.

Anita over hits his long passes, and they always skid out over the line. Not that we should be playing those passes all the time.

There is nothing wrong with the occasional direct ball in to the box to unlock an opponent, but when it is the only way we can play we get sussed. We were sussed 12 months ago.

We should be passing to unlock opponents, and having players double up on the flanks to make overlapping runs, and add to that players getting in to the box to attack anything coming in. This stuff is straight out of a fooball book for dummies, maybe we should chip in and buy one for Pardew.

26 Aug 2013 12:19:05
Kinnear states "before the season started we decided the squad was big enough and strong enough to finish in the top half of the table"
This is the first I have heard this from the club. If they communicated more then the fans would know what is going on even if we do not agree. There would not be the build up of expectations. We would not be trawling the papers and the internet looking for our next signing and being disappointed as each potential target signs for some other club.
All we do hear is the contradictory garbage that Pardew spouts.
Having said that, if they think this squad can finnish in the top half of they table without some quality additions, then as I have thought all along, they know buggar all about football

I'm confused, if "before the season started we decided the squad was big enough and strong enough to finish in the top 10" what is Kinnear doing on the NUFC pay roll? I though he was responsible for transfers and was going to open doors with all his contacts - seemingly not! so if we are not in the market and apparently haven't been for some time, what is he doing exactly and why do we need him?

26 Aug 2013 11:17:46
i think we all need to give Pards a brake. I know, I know his tactics aren't the best/ are out dated but what do you all expect him to do with no cash on the table and his top team player refusing to play because he wants to go to a bigger club. and before you rubbish me just stop and think how hard it would be to do your own job if the work place you were at was as toxic as Newcastle is under Big Mike. I mean Pards must be a saint just to put up with all the crap that's dumped at his door.

HWTL

OZ.

He could get the best out of the players he already has, if he cannot get his tactics right and the team is underperforming he has to shoulder the blame, that is the managers job.

He is not at Newcastle to run the team in to the ground, get the tactics wrongs, and take no responsibility for it.

Look, to be manager of Newcastle is a massive privilege, and it's Aussie responsibility. Pardew is not the one who works with no money on the table, that's Kinnear's job. Pardew is expected to bring good results and success with what he has in front of him. What he has in front of him is top 8 quality, but he is not using their abilities, strength or style properly. He is getting technical, hardworking players to play it around the back and hoof it to the isolated striker. You can't just really on one new signing to bring you goals, you are expected to get the new signing to help bring goals along with the likes of cisse, gouffran, ameobi not just him on his own. You can't just rely on one new signing to replace Cabaye and be the only one who creates, he's expected to help create chances along with the likes of Tiote, Anita, bigirimana, Marveaux Ben Arfa, not just by himself. Pardew is expected to get the best out of every player, to get the team playing how he wants to, and he's currently not doing that. The lack of movement off the ball is shocking, the amount of space in pockets in front of the midfield and defence is shocking, the amount of players who just stay in the opponents half when the opposition are on the counter is shocking. Pardew hasn't got the tactical knowledge of the likes of Rodgers, Laudrup, Jorge Jesus, Mancini, pellegrini, even Martin Jol.

Your team is not top 8 quality at all! if they were that good they would play that good no matter what position or tactics they have to play, u lot over value and think they are better than they are! 1 shot in 2 games says it all! west ham should have got 5 against u! u are shockingly bad all over the pitch and will be out played by most of the teams in the prem

Laudrups Swans haven't won a game yet either.

''Your team is not top 8 quality at all! if they were that good they would play that good no matter what position or tactics they have to play''

What on earth?

What a braniac! lol, yep, tactics do not matter at all, okay!

This is football, the tactics and positioning of players is critical, and I mean absolutely critical at this level of football. All it takes is weakness in tactics to creep in, and you can be decimated at Premier League level. Why do you think so many half good squads still play compact defensive football?

If you attempt to play anything other than defensive football, and you train the team to hoof and islolate the attacks, you will get beat every time. The quality of the players will be meaningless.

You could play Messi upfront for Newcastle right now and he would not score more than 10 goals a season. Good players can only operate when they are trained to pass and play football.

When good players are told to keep the ball in the air like volleyball, the obvious things will happen.

Yes our squad is top 8 quality, and your utterly wrong about a top 8 team being able to play under any tactics or manager which is complete and utter BS.

Sunderland get outplayed by every team in the prem, even when we lost to you, you just played with 3 men on the counter and waited for Jonas to make a mistake

So you were the better team then, were you?Dear me, fantasy island from you lot.

Were a top 16 side because that's where we finished, its about the players and the manager trying to make a good team, hope we are a top 16 side next year but I doubt it,

26 Aug 2013 09:10:52
What happened to the new coach Alan Pardew said he needed at the end of last season? Club are trying to force him out I reckon. Just don't see who could replace him.

If pardew leaves it will be kinnear who takes over