Newcastle Banter Archive June 22 2011

22 Jun 2011 20:08:37
Would really like to see us bid for both Sturridge and Wellbeck they seem to have a good understanding with each other and offer pace. Both english with potentil sell on value.If we could get Shakiri as well that could be Carrolls 35million well spent. I think then just strenthening the squad with three or four more players than ones being suggested being sold and we should have a more youthful and energetic squad for nest season.

SQUAD FOR NEXT SEASON
KEEPERS
Krull, Forster or Harper
FULLBACKS
Corluka 2.5m, Simpson, Ferguson, Enrique (hopefully staying if not someone like Warnock 2m)
CENTRE HALFS
Colloccini, Taylor, Williamson, Upson FREE
MIDFIELD
Tiote, Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Gosling, Marveraux, Guiterez, Vukic, Barton, Marvin Martin 6m. Shakiri 15m, poss Vicente FREE OR Herierra 5m
STRIKERS
Sturridge 10-12m, Wellbeck 8m Demba Ba FREE, Ameobi, Lovenkrands, Airey.

Sell Perch, Gutherie, Lua Lua, Smith, Routledge, Best. 10 -12m

Hopefully keeping Coloccini, Guiterez, Barton, Tiote, Harper and Taylor and Enrique (although I think he's gone in his head) we still have the spirit of the last couple of years but with extra pace and quality from an attacking play.

Still no announcement about where Gervinho is going??

Give me a pint of what you hav been drinking mate ! ! ! no wonder the makems take the p- - out of us ! !

Lool to that midfield! a top four team would be happy with them players

It is within our price range. According to my calculations we still have 35 million from Carrol, and 20 million promised before the start of the season. 55 million, should mean we can afford some of the players mentioned + wages.

Is it really that unrealistic??

Sturridge down in pecking order at Cheski with new manager wanting to bring own players.
Wellbeck similar to above
Corluka spurs have at least three right backs
Upson/Vicente FREE to anyone

Admitedly Shakiri and Martin may have ambitions of a team playing in Europe.

Most achievable under normal circumstance because I think they will all move clubs, not sure if our owner and manager are the best people to sell and negotiate players to our club though

U say this as if these players were available that nufc would be the only team to want them! lol dream on! don't think ash will spend mo than 10m on a single player.(WelshToon)

Gotta laugh at his lot but are ye only allowed to name 25 players in ye squad at start of season (ed) i can count 32 on here and that means no place for any of the young lads aiming to break through plus wage bill will put us in administration if we went down cheers {Ed001's Note - not strictly speaking true, it is merely 25 players over the age of 21, so nothing to stop the young lads getting in.}

Where are you getting 32 from?

3 keepers 5 fullbacks 4 centre halfs 12 midfielders 7 centre forards mentioned on here that still makes 31 and not many underage of 21

4 fullbacks and 11 midfielders as he said Jose or Warnock, Vicente or Herrera.

And 6 center fowards.

29 players mentioned = Warnock if enrique goes
1 x 18
3 x 19
1 x 20
3 x 21
8 out of 29 players 21 or under

3 x 23
2 x 24
6 x 25
1 x 26
1 x 27
2 x 28
3 x 29

Only Lovenkrands 31, Upson 32 and Harper 36 over 30 years old

Average age just under 25 years old.

And a partridge in a pear tree

22 Jun 2011 19:22:22
why can't sunderland and newcastle fans get it into their heads no nzogbia no sturridge no anelka no players whose wages are 60k plus the heiracy of both clubs won't be paying big wages for anyone so come down off ye high horses

Nufc will pay high wages to the right player! eg 75k wk to enrique was offered. (WelshToon)

Smithy is on fecking 60k a week how ridiculous

No wonder big mike wants rid of them most probably get them for £50 each on transfer deadline day to get em off wage bill

Put them with bruces babes and we could have 5-1 pounds toon for ever

22 Jun 2011 18:36:10
why rumours about El had douif. can't u remember his antics up toon. . gestering to the fans. evan ashley aint that stupid. Imagine him and barton. be better then haye v kalitscko

My money is on joey!

Na diouf not a 17 year old kid

He didn't hit the kid at man city! he hit a young lad and a fella with him in liverpool city centre. people make mistakes. its called being human

Na the kid at man city he stubbed a cigarette out in his face wish he was my son i would have broke bartons legs bully boy

22 Jun 2011 17:29:26
The Frenchman (N'zogbia), who still has 12 months left to run on his contract at the DW Stadium, came close to joining Birmingham in a £9million deal last summer.

That agreement collapsed over personal terms, with the Blues reluctant to meet the demands on the table.

Sound familiar?

Personally not bothered if N'zogbia signs or not he's a good player but not as good as he thinks he is. Would prefer to spend arpond 12million and 60k wages on a decent stiker. He only has a year left on his contract if we could get him now for about 7 or 8 m and upto 50k a week then he would be a good buy. We have plenty of options in midfield who hopefully can now provide pace and creativity.

22 Jun 2011 17:07:16
breaking news a new shreck film to be made on wear side they have 3 donkies lined up to play the part

And big mike got the part as shrek

22 Jun 2011 15:51:30
barton 4 captain next season if stays with club hopefully also newcastle on the hunt 4 centre back as colo on way out as wages to high (nufckinda)

22 Jun 2011 15:30:14
In all honesty, I can't see us spending big this window. N Zog has proven that! Not a world beater but that calibre of player demands £60k a week. So any player as good or better will be £60k a week plus. Young untried foreigners on the cheap. £10m Erding- saying we are priced out. Gameiro and Gervinho - never going to get. I know its early and hope to be proved wrong. No real big names to come in. I did start of excited by the transfer window but just can't see any big named strikers coming in. Big risk what we are doing.

Krul

Hopefully new RB
Colo (if stays) Upson if not. (another free!)
S Taylor
Enrique (if stays) Taylor if not (another cheap)

Jonas
Cabaya
Tiote
Marveux (for few games til gets crocked)

Ben Arfa

Ba (hopefully new striker instead)

You're going over top about Marveaux in the last 5 seasons he has made over 30+ appearances in 3 of them and has had 2 bad injuries which required surgery.

If Jose Enrique does stay (unlikely but fingers crossed) I think Jonas will stay on the left side as their partnership down the wing last season at times were phenomanal sometimes unbeatable.

I agree another striker like mario gomez or berbatov. If barton stays he'll be captain. Plus jonas won' t be there next year probobly.

N'Zogbia wanted £75k a week. Our wage cap is set at between £60k-£70k depending on the player.

22 Jun 2011 13:15:54
"N Zogbia to sunderland and we arent getting sturrage, we getting no more strikers. DP"

ha ha , you hope! !

Doubt we will get sturridge but zog will end up at liverpool or spurs with a possibility of arsenal.

22 Jun 2011 12:35:45
Newcastle are paying Marveaux £60k pw and that's how much N'zogbia is asking for so Newcastle can pay his wages.

Cos overall marveaux cost nothing so his oulay is less than paying 12 million for zog so he gets that wage and zogs wages reduced by his transfer costs

Zog could join next season for nothing and get £60k and we could sell Jonas to a Serie A team because he'd like to play there.

22 Jun 2011 09:21:40
Not a rumour just a thought. If we sell Best and Ranger that leaves us with Lovenkrands/Shola and Ba.
Ba will be off to the African Cup Of Nations in the New Year but there is also a good chance Shola will too with Nigeria which will leave us only 1 senior striker at present providing he is not injured. We all knwo the club is after another striker so we better hope he is not African and hope who ever it is is not injured.

Comments please.

Lovenkands been heavily linked with a number of scottish teams so even less strikers. . -DP

Lovenkrands staying to the end of contract and the retiring! he said this would be his last move and that he should have come years ago!

22 Jun 2011 08:44:49
i hope all this talk of jonas leaving is just rumour i admit he can be very frustrating to watch but on his day no team or player can handle him and we need to remember other than the starting 11 it would be nice for the first time in years to look at the bench and see some quality there aswell we never have any subs who i felt could change a game last season

Big spending Malaga or PSG

22 Jun 2011 07:45:42
With N'Zogbia move fallen through will move for either Barnetta or Guardado.

Young(14) Toon

22 Jun 2011 02:01:58
Longtime Newcastle fan, and seriously am not one bit excited for this season to start, , I believe there will be further departures such as Jonas Gutierrez and Jose Enrique, , yes Yohan Cabaye maybe a good player but can he do it in the Premier League, Demba Ba, very average in my opinion, and Sylvian Marveaux, I've never heard in my life. Taking players mentioned above along side with Kevin Nolan is going hurt next year, these are players who have just as much passion for the club as the players. Reason they are leaving is because they are sick of the owners and are basically being forces out, I seriously believe every players who has come in will be part of a profit plan, Mike Ashley does not care, I think Newcastle would benefit more if he sold the club even without spending another penny of that £35million. The sickening thing is that a bit of life was brought in newcastle as they have been convinced he will use all of that 35million, he won't, not without selling another 15-25million worth of players, MIKE ASHLEY GET OUT OF OUR CLUB! !

It will be the biggest celebration Newcastle has ever seen the day he sells the club.

I too am a lifetime newcastle fan. and agree with some of the things that you have mentioned. i do agree that mike ashley is trying to save money and does not really care about the club. however i think selling nolan was a good deal 4.5 mil for him is not bad at all, yes he did have an amazing season. but i doubt very much he will have a season like that again. one again if barton goes i don't think that's a bad thing ether, they are both very average players who had a good season, i believe that pards is trying to change the style of football we play and i welcome the new signings and think they will do good things playing with the likes of ben arfa arguably our best player. i think pards wants to create a team that has the same sort of playin style as arfa and barton and nolan don't fit this style, regarding jonas and enrique i hope they don't go but does seem very likely. i think that we should all be optimistic as we have signed 3 players and none of them r that bad and im welcoming a new style of football to newcastle! somewhat like the entertainers in king kevs glory days!

Those days have gone and won't ever be repeated but we all live in hope and dream!

Never say never