Newcastle Banter Archive January 22 2013

22 Jan 2013 22:39:47
Fair play to Ashley (albeit six months to late) Well we have Mbiwa, hopefully keep Colo (if not another cb) and if Haidara, Goufran and Sissoka (worth paying 2-3 mil now) signs that would be great.
Another striker to keep Cisse on his toes, Graham would do in the short term but happy for Carr to produce a surprise.

The Icing on the cake for me would be Siem De Jong, then I think we would have a good enough squad to clear relegation and push on for next season (hopefully top six).

Re-balance the books in the summer by releasing Simpson, Guti, Obertan and Gosling, loan out Bigi and Sammy for experience really like Bigi and in a couple of years he will be a good signing, Sammy I feel is more a championship player.

You giveth with one hand and taketh away with the other! 'Fair play to Ashley / ALBEIT SIX MONTHS TOO LATE)

Paying 4 million for Graham to cover short term sounds like a waste of money.

He is more than good enough to play as a forward in our team.

I will never understand how people can put Graham in the same bracket as someone like Leon Best, this guy is way better than that.

He is a notch above Shane Long. (Who Liverpool could not buy for over 10 million) {Ed001's Note - Liverpool have never bid for Long.}

Ed, Check your facts again.

Liverpool enquired about Shane Long, they were knocked back and the reported fee for Long would be over 10 million.

They were told he was not for sale.

(Nowhere did I say bid, same as Liverpool did not bid for Allen or Sturridge, they buy outright these days) {Ed001's Note - I think you need to check your facts, Long has never been the object of an enquiry from Liverpool. Your 'facts' are utter nonsense from the papers. Liverpool's targets are well known and Long has not been one of them. I don't know what world you live in, but Liverpool bid a number of times for both Allen and Sturridge in the summer.}

22 Jan 2013 21:24:43
always said the fat man would spend money this window and sure enough he is couple more signings tomorrow to be unveiled and then lets just get behind the players the manager and owner and get them points we vitally need.

22 Jan 2013 21:12:35
Potential team for end of January window:
Krul
Debuchy-s.Taylor-Mbiwa-Santon
Sissokho-tiote-cabaye
Ben area-cisse-gouffran
Sounds like a pretty effective team

On paper yes . But we play on grass !

Colo won't go atleast until the summer

Shame I think Gouffran would prefer playing on paper than grass.

22 Jan 2013 20:52:18
I see a lot of people on twitter criticising us for signing foreign players but it's all about signing quality players and quite frankly we can't afford to compete with the big clubs to sign the good English talents like Zaha, and most of the others are overpriced.
Signing English players like Williamson, Simpson, Gosling or French players like M'biwa, Debuchy and Possibly Sissoko is a no brainer for me.
Krul
Debuchy M'biwa Colo(hopefully) Santon
Anita Cabaye Sissoko
Marveaux Cisse Gouffran
Bench
Elliot, Taylor, Haidara, Perch, Jonas, Obertan, Shola.

Just look at what we got for the rumoured price of Zaha. Plus last time I checked France weren't exactly a poor national team.

Where is HBA? No side is complete without him surely

HBA is injured and I'm wasn't sure when he was back and Tiote is at ACN hence why I left them out.

22 Jan 2013 19:38:06
They all seem like reasonable signings if we get them.
Still think we need a proven goal scorer like Darren Bent.

Be careful, we don't know what they will be like, unknown in these parts ! Every other one turned out none effective, reserve judgement . But it's a start .

Nooooooooooooo

Totaly agree with the second post, I know we needed bodies through the door but.....are they the quality we needed. Maybe the CB is but the rest?? I still think we are missing someone like Dres Mertens from this window.

22 Jan 2013 19:35:42
To be honest I don't think we need another main striker if we get Gouffran. It will mean we can play a 4-3-3 playing Cisse through the middle and Gouffran and HBA either side, which will have everyone playing in their right position. Another striker will mean a ramshackle 4-4-2 playing HBA more defensive than he should be, and Marveaux/Gouffran on the left who are far too attacking or, god forbid, Gutierrez who is just awful. Also we will have cover for players in all positions. Perhaps we could do with a good sub who could come on if we were struggling, get goals when we need them, but not outshine Cisse, Danny Graham would be perfect for this role I reckon. This is all if we sign Sissoko, M'Biwa, Haidara and Gouffran - the rest of the team will be consistently strong and we wouldn't have weak links at the back or in the middle, allowing for much better play across all the pitch, with HBA, Cabaye and Gouffran for creativity and Cisse banging in left right and centre.
Nice seeing some optimism amongst the boys with all the recent news, and let's just hope that we pull at least 3 out of 4 of these players and we can turn this season around. Howay the lads!

Forgot to mention, our record playing in 4-3-3 instead of 4-4-2 speaks for itself. Got M'Biwa, just 2 or 3 more to go!

22 Jan 2013 19:15:31
Man we should buy willfred bony from vitesse, what a beast. Could dominate premier league

22 Jan 2013 18:41:38
Newcastle in for trio and agree deal for Gouffran if we are in for trio dose this included Gouffran are is there another deal happening some where hopefully sissoko deal to bring him in this month then another striker in and mybe jack butland and I will be a very happy man

22 Jan 2013 18:14:42
FINALLY! Some positive Newcastle transfer window buzz in place of slamming big mike! If we have signed Gouffran, Haidera, Mbiwa, Sissocho and Debuchy by the 31st of January with only Ba leaving I will be over the moon! Looks also that 433 is being preferred with Gouffran coming in, v. good possible line up once all hopefully complete could be:
Krul
Santon, Collocinni(hopefully!), Mbiwa, Debuchy
Sissocho, Cabaye, Tiote
Gouffran, Cisse, HBA
(not one English player must be noticed-good!)
Would be delighted if we played this! Up the TOON!

Embarrassing having no english players let alone geordies

Swap coloccini out put in saylor, covers both bases english geordie

Embarrassing for NUFC or embarrassing for British football? Its sad that there isn't any decent British talent out there that could get into the team without spending more than £10m on someone totally untested from the Championship. Its a crying shame actually.

Teams are looking for £8m for Hooper and £12m for Zaha and both are not great in my opinion. Certainly no better than what we're attempting to buy for less than £5m in France.

DomW

And all theses players are test in EPL ? NOT 1 OF YOUR PLAYERS ARE FROM A TOP 6 TEAM in france who is gambling omly time will tell

22 Jan 2013 17:52:45
If we sign mbiwa, haidara, gouffran, sissoko (and hopefully another striker) how stupid will remy feel at going to qpr for a few more pennies?

22 Jan 2013 17:03:47
hope sissoko deal is completed and not a pre contract agreement. some good news atlast thank god, still want wide forward/wingers sinclair on loan possibly or siem de jong and maybe another centre half.
i can't help thinking we will be letting one of our star players go to pay for this .but i'm just going to enjoy today because good days have been few and far between this season...del

22 Jan 2013 13:52:58
anyone else on hear think newcastle are doomed if williamson or shola had not started on saturday and any of the new signings from france take their place against villa then newcastle would have no british players starting a game. now don't get me wrong some of the buys newcastle have made are good buys but when the going gets tough I don't think some of these foreign lads will have the heart in a battle. I fear for newcastle staying in the top flight and even though i'm a sunderland supporter I for one don't want to see newcastle going down.

And do you really think that our lazy, dozy Shola has the heart for a battle?

The problem we have is some of our English players simply aren't good enough. Williamson has cost us so many goals this season.

Put original post on lads and not going to disagree with you's but I think you could do with a couple of lads in with premiership experince but as most people can see mr ashley likes the french lads who seem to com through at a reasonable price and the wages are not to high just hope it doesn't backfire on you's

To me, it's about ability, passion and determination. Doesn't matter where the player's from. If Andy Carroll is an example of home-grown geordie, I'd rather have a 'Le Geordie' aujoud hui.

Arsenal played with all foreigners and won things, plenty of fight in a lots of them as well

Foreign ARE NOT GOOD FOR A CLUB in the long term you can't fill your club with foreign players unless they are the BEST foreign players do you think the players yous are signing are some of the best in the world ? think it takes away the local feel for a club always good to give our lads a go but we have no say in the matter

English players simply aren't good enough WHY ? CLUBS don't have the bottle to take a chance on OUR LADS look at the signings safc and nufc have made this month come on you telling me these are better ? get the scouts back to the schools and local clubs on sat and sunday m8 and I would bet any one on here theirs a couple of gems waiting

Williamson is he the only english player out there ?

Differance been world CLASS imports not run of the mill players

Rooney hart lampard milner ferdinand a. cole lescott terry barry scholes j. cole p. neville w. brown some of the english lads still in the game with premiership medals not to mention defoe walcott gerrard carragher afew lads supposedly playing for the big clubs not to have won a premiership medal could make a team out of these and ye won't be far off winning the league

Everyone of those English players mentioned we couldn't afford. Brown is an interesting one. He is rubbish.

Would you say the french league is any better than SPL ?

Why can't we afford ? sold carroll 35 mil don't be silly its the way fatman runs all he's business buy cheap sell for a mark up all we are is a shop window

Why is brown rubbish because he plays or gets paid off sunderland when he won his league winners medal he was at man utd

22 Jan 2013 12:25:36
I, like everyone else, would be happy to see mbwia arrive. However, if colo leaves we will be worse off at centre half than we were against Reading. I'd rather have colo/williamson than mbwia/williamson. Really hope its Colo/mbwia but i'm not holding my breath.

Ed, I am glad to see that finally Mbiwa is having a medical and it was the bad weather that delayed it. What I am sick of is the press running a "highjack the deal" story about every player with have a bid accepted for! Do they not know how nerve racking it is for us already.

Big Sam said on TV that he was not interested in a perm deal for Hadiara and therefore not following up.

Joss

Colo/Williamson is not working.

Mbiwa/Willamson could work better, you just never know.

What is without doubt is that Mbiwa should be going to a champions league club, we are verrrry lucky to be getting him.

22 Jan 2013 09:29:09
Why is it after the Remy Saga, are transfer stories being leaked? who leaks them as I assume/hope its no one at our club...is it agents/other clubs? Surly its better if all parties are told to be quiet until the deal is done? Or is that not how it works?

Lewis {Ed001's Note - it might be best for Newcastle, but the player, the agent and the selling club all want other parties involved to raise their return.}

Thanks Ed.

Lewis

22 Jan 2013 08:28:34
I thought Gouffran was an attacking midfielder. He need a striker who can play as a winger people.

He's scored 22 goals this season so that sounds good to me.

I made a typeo it's 12 but that's still good for half season.

22 Jan 2013 02:39:26
I'm a spurs man and come in peace.... I like you lot
And can't believe how well you did last
Season to where you are now.. Surely it's not
Down to Ba leaving... Cab is Defo not the
Player we are eyeing up but there is one of 2....
Cisse and more likely Ben arfa with Huddleston or
Dawson being part of the deal.. Good luck with
Ur season... you lot are to good to go down
Mr g

21 Jan 2013 18:14:38
Eds, if we were to dign Gouffran, would you think that he'd play wide left, or through the middle with Cissé dropping to the bench? {Ed001's Note - no idea, you would hope Cisse would play through the middle, where he can get back to goal scoring form.}

Cisse has got to play through the middle and hopefully he can get his confidence in front of goal. Bowing down to Ba in an attempt to keep him has not done Cisse any favours, so we need a forward who can play on the wing/work the channels and hopefully create more in the box for Cisse, which also means we need midfielders getting in the box to score goals.