Newcastle Banter Archive January 20 2013

20 Jan 2013 22:53:38
id have the southampton manager who just been undeservedley sacked

Good shout, he's a tactical manager who got southampton playing some really nice attacking football that completely tore us apart. Wouldn't mind him, martinez, blanc not sure bout Di matteo though.

20 Jan 2013 22:42:43
THE BEST WAY TO GET THE TEAM PLAYING.....boo them makes sense NOT....like it or not we need to back the team and pardew for now

Got a better idea of making our feelings known to pardew and ashley?.....

The reading game was the 18th match of a shocking run.............the team have had every opportunity to sort things out, but havent. dnt blame the fans for the loss. the fans spend their had earned money to go to the games, they can bloody well boo if they want. think about those fans who travelled the 600 odd mile round trip to brighton!! they need to know how rubbish theyve been!

I have an idea, lets bake them a cake and throw them a party.

The players just need a good pat on the back and thanked for their dire performances, that will be sure to remind them that losing is ok.

20 Jan 2013 22:11:36
we have a good team and most fans know what we need why doesn't the manager.1centre half, 2 if collocini leaves 1 left sided winger /striker.this would be enough to keep us up, don't see any point in bent he wants to play through the middle that position is already spoken for with cisse and shola as back up .mbiwa, dawson and siem de jong.

20 Jan 2013 21:03:13
Sick of everyone getting on Pardews back all fans booing him 4 taking off cabaye he been injured for 2 half months for god sake and they expect him 2 run the full 90 mins yes I do feel marvoux sub was odd but for me the boo boys got on the teams back and cost us the game ! Please get behind the team pardew will be trying to bring players in but he can only do so much !

What cost us the game was sitting back on a 1-0 lead.

The boo boys reacted to a nonsensical decision by an inept tactician with a defeatist attitude(Marvs change) and nobody new cabaye was labouring when he got subbed.
They've got the right to express their feelings at Pardew because it's them that keep him in the lifestyle he is accustomed too.
The players are not daft except daft lad Ranger of course, and they will know what the boos were about.
Far the puppet to come out and say that post match is incredible. I wonder whether he actually understands the terms and words he uses in interviews. Bet he can't remember what he has said afterwards because his gob just seems to go into runaway mode.
Ashley must know that he has to spend a few quid to stave off relegation and I reckon he will. He knows he dropped a bollock last summer player recruitment wise and is still learning his role as an owner. As an owner he must learn when to act and now might be the time.
Right back to his puppet, Pardew has been doin this caper for a long time now with various clubs and he hasn't learned anything! His 2nd season stats at any club don't make good reading at all. If you think back, who was in favour of his appointment in the first place! Again, during his learning curve I hope Ashley doesn't repeat that mistake.
Laurent Blanc does sound appealing.

If blanc came in hba would be gone ! Did they nt fall out when national manager !

20 Jan 2013 19:54:57
Alan Pardew backed into 1/2 fav to be next manager sacked! Source

20 Jan 2013 18:28:09
Alan Pardew is going to get fired soon

If he does go l would like to see Gary Neville, yep!! Gary Neville heart on his sleeve type of person

Gary wouldn't leave the England set up and his cushy Sky job to come to us, he's not daft.

I would not be able to look at Gary Neville without thinking about Man Utd.

It would be too much for me to accept him as manager.

No for christs sake

20 Jan 2013 18:06:31
Serge Akakpo of togo would love to play in the prem is gd friend with Ben afra is only twenty five and wouldn't be to much to buy says it would be a dream to play in England these are the type of players that we should be wanting to bring in wants to come to England to play football not just for the money

The ONLY reason any pro footballer would want to come to england to play is the money, the days of wearing your shirt with pride died when fergie started to dominate the epl. We are ALL living in the past.
liono74

20 Jan 2013 17:20:27
Considering the toon now have 12 days left in the transfer market and the next game is against the villa in 10 days its safe to say that we have to win that considering that the villa play two cup games within the 10 we have off and they only have 4 days to prepare for us fingers crossed someone gets injured for the game against us bent eke with a strain if some muscle would be a godsend . I would never wish an injury on anyone but with the confidence low results not going our way we need some luck and fast! I don't care where it comes from. And I am praying like a lot of toon fans if not all the s. Taylor is back and fit for that game!!

Taylor v Benteke - oh no !

20 Jan 2013 17:02:16
We are now odds on favourites to sign Darren Bent.

Could do much worse! Get him or Graham in.

We need another creative midfielder in as well.

You couldn't afford his wages, he left safc for more money and safc pay more wages than nufc and b£nt loves his money.

20 Jan 2013 16:25:09
According to we are favourites to land Darren Bent this month! Wonder what kind of reception he would get?

Don't think we are in a position to moan about it ! If he scores who cares .

Castoff

Like, chopra, clarky, bramble and ANDY JOHNSON

20 Jan 2013 15:55:55
Was at the game yesterday and the first half performance was exactly what we need! We have Ben Arfa to come back into the fold and create more chances and make the runs that Cabaye is looking for! We definitely need a pacey striker that can change a game in a run! Then the 2nd half begun and everything wrong with the team came to ahead! Willowtree reverted back to his disgraceful self and yet again Ameobi has stolen another days wages! (My god he's awful) BUT we need to stay positive, shocking decisions by Pardew but he did talk a little bit of sense, the negativity (although not shown to the players) did spread to the pitch and the weak players left on there who thrive on confidence just melted! We as fans need to try and give these players a lift, be the 12th man like we normally are!! I used to have a season ticket (but moved away) an I can't remember a times when the whole stadium sung! Lets hope for signings but ULTIMATELY lets MAKE SOME NOISE!

Yeah it was the 1st sign of decent football all season shame about the 2nd half.
thought cisse got into some good positions and only a matter of time before he finds the goalden touch, again remember he aren't played in a central role all season.

We were negative as soon as the second half begun we didn't attack and if I remember correctly Obertan had our only shot on target and that was in the 90th minute.
Although I agree booing doesn't help it was just another of the many excuses Pardew has.

20 Jan 2013 14:41:58
Newcastle arrivals
loan -
Dawson - Spurs
Sinclair - Citah

Signings
Bent - Villa
Mbiwa - M'pellier
as well as Haidara and Gong/Thauvin

possible deals with Lyon loan or perm.
Yoann Gourcuff/Gomis perm
Alexandre Lacazette loan

and do it quickly please!!!
ShoutE

20 Jan 2013 14:18:47
It should have been evident in November when the injuries started piling up that we would needto do early transfer business in January.

Given we fractionally scraped past the worst time in the league at the time, QPR..... we then have the 4-3 loss at Man Utd, followed by the humiliation at Arsenal, losing at home to Everton, throw in the shambles at Brighton......well if then bigwigs at the club didn't realise that drastic action was required.....this should have given them a big wake up call..........but it didnt!

Now surprise surprise, here we are, two thirds the way through the window and we are in dire straits. We only had one plan.....Loic Remy......and we ruined that!

All the transfer 'rumours' speculate we are bidding for defenders....yes we need them, but strikers are what we need most.......one is not enough......we need two as a minimum.

Lose at Villa and I think its curtains for us!

Personally, i'd love Danny Graham, someone who can finish, that's what we need because Cisse isn't up to the job. Last season was a fluke for him, no doubt about it......he scored 'worldies' against Villa, Norwich, 2 at Chelsea........he'd never be able to do that again. Everytime I watch him i'm amazed how bad he is, a simple ball played to his feet ends up 10 yards away from him or somehow ending up in the air and he loses it every time.

I'm so disappointed, just wish someone at the club would speak to the fans and be honest in their appraisals of results and stop making excuses.

The fans have been far too understanding.....the boos are long overdue, we have every right to express our feelings!

Seriously man, cisse was denied by 3 world class saves, and him and cabaye linked up fantastically. Give ya heed a shake man. When he starts scoring again you'll be first one saying class is permanent form is temporary.

Cisse had a better strike rate than Ba in the bundasliga and was better in the latter half of last season than Ba .The lad has had all his confidence shattered because Pards buckled under pressure from Ba to go central again .He even admitted that at a charity event that Ba had caused alittle unrest with the team with his demands.

Cisse has played in something like 27 games this season in all comps and scored 6......................now if uoure talking about class being permanent but form temporary....well I would prefer a centre forward who doesn't go thru FIVE MONTH.......yes FIVE MONTH temporary losses of form. Cisse is a jigsaw, sign 2 strikers and drop him.

I agree with the first post; Cisse is not up to the job! his 'worldies' are a thing of the past!

If you think Cisse is the man to get us out of trouble then you are as deluded as Alan Pardew!!

Comparisons of Ba's and Cisse's strike rate in Germany is of no significance. How Cisse performs for Newcastle is what's important! in 6 goals in 27 (one of his backside against West Brom) is shocking form!

For heavens sake the lad has been played out of position all season, yet still scored more from said position than the legendary demba ba when he was asked to do same thing. Cisse ain't the single answer to our problems no, but I believe he will have a big say in helping us stay up. Every single striker in the world will have a blip in form, just keep supporting him. Chin up lads haway

Cisse is twice the player bent is he ll score loadsa goals playing in a central role, had chances yesterday but keeper had a blinder

20 Jan 2013 13:30:44
Pathetic pardew, blames the fans for losing and booing. Even ranger gets in on the act."Get behind the team, don't boo" NEWCASTLE UNITED DESERVE TO GET BOOED AT THE MOMENT, WE'VE HAD TO PUT UP WITH THIS LONGBALL CRAP FOR 5 MONTHS. Rangers a disgrace to thE Club. We've had to put up with being embarrassed to crap teams. GET OUT OF OUR CLUB GET OUT OF OUR CLUB, ALAN PARDEW, GET OUT OF OUR CLUB

I agree with the long ball crap its just not the time to get rid of a manager now then spend a week getting a new one.....GET BEHIND THE TEAM AND MANAGER judge at end of season

So your alright to put up wiv pardew with the risk of relegation?

Sland fan here, so your finally admitting your a long ball team, phew its only took a year to admit it, pratdew doesn't have a plan be and he will get you relegated just like every club he's managed, he starts off well at every club then eventually implodes you have been warned.

Yeah relegation usually follows a good season with him I posted this when he took over and reaally didn't want him as manager

20 Jan 2013 11:56:25
Ed, would steve clarke be available, or can you not manage more than 2 clubs in a season. I'd like either steve clarke, martinez, maybe di matteo, but I saw wigan v sunderland and when they 3-2 down, they played some lovely football and deserved to win the game. Clarke is a miracle worker, he can motivate is team to come back. Plays some nice football on the counter attack. Ed, is there any talk behind the scenes that pardew is dangerously close to being sacked, and how much money would ashley have to pay to get pardew out, would it be 7 years wages or just 1 year? {Ed001's Note - there are no limits on the number of teams a manager can manage in a season, Clarke has only been at 1 this season anyway. There has been talk of Pardew getting punted, nothing really reliable but everyone thought the same regarding Adkins. I fail to see why on earth Clarke would want to leave West Brom right now though anyway.}

I would love Steve Clarke at the Toon but can't see him leaving West Brom.... I'd even take Lee Clarke right now although ideally he would have a bit more experience first. One for the future maybe

Wigan deserved to win ? Aye right - pressure and possession doesn't mean you deserve to win - goals my boy, it's goals that win matches otherwise Swansea would be champions of Europe ! And when you sell Mr Ba your goals dry up but you'll be fine so stop worrying - anyway, the Premiership needs teams like Newcastle, you know, yo yo clubs - it's what makes it exciting !

Steve Clarke was at Newcastle for years as a coach and was not great.

He would basically be a coach again if he came back, with Ashley being Commander in chief of everything else.

Yoyo club..? wonder which team has ben relegated the most from EPL..

20 Jan 2013 10:12:28
Signing a left back to me indicates that Santon will be playing on the wing? he is far better than Jonas and can cross with either foot, good move if this is the plan. he seems more comfortable going forward and has the pace that jonas has lost to go past people.

Or, it could be that we are going to sell him, which does not bear thinking about as he has been one of our best perfomers this season.

Toonal

Or it could be AP has realised Santon just can not defend. Another goal yesterday due to him allowing a ball to drop behind him an their winger putting in a dangerous cross

Or he is leaving the sinking ship.

20 Jan 2013 09:02:28
If we sack pardew we only pay 1 seasons wages not all 8!

20 Jan 2013 00:12:42
Why are people saying fire Pardew and hire Di Mateo? He is an average manager who performed poorly in the league and played ugly, defensive football in the cups! He had so many great attacking players at his disposal yet he played defensive! I know most toon fans would be unhappy playing defensive as they enjoy attractive attacking football! Besides, the only reason Newcastle aren't performing of late is due to a huge injury list, which forces Pardew to play defensive as he is missing the flair and creativity if Ben Arfa and Cabaye, who I believe are Newcastle's best two players.
I do however agree that Williamson is awful, his defending for Le Fondre's first was woefull...

Williamsons defended like that all year, we've lost so many points because of him, ie fulham, stoke, reading. Why is he even in our squad rather see perch at cb then him, my opinion we should release him no one is going to buy him. My heart drops every time the ball goes near him.

I agree, plus I'm unsure why people would want Martinez, Wigan are consistently struggling season after season. i'm not sure sacking pardew at this stage is the answer (plus who would want to take the job?)
I was at the game yesterday and people (and press and even pardew) point out the fact that the fans were booing when cabaye was taken off (which is correct - I'd like to point out that I didn't boo even though I didn't agree at the tine as I think booing during the game is wrong coz it's only going to affect the players, boo at the end if you want to show your feelings) and I feel for pardew if cabaye was injured as it was hard to see that from the stands. However, no one seems to have mentioned that people were booing at the first sub which was marveux off and perch on after going 1.1 which WAS disappointing.
It was also disappointing to see shola on the right because its just reverting back to the Ba situation playing people out of position; even though I love Ba, I thought at least with him gone then pardew would at least be forced to play a winger out there. We are REALLY missing Ben Arfa but I'm afraid there might be too much to do when he is finally back.
Losing is a bad habit to crack or even just not winning....

Get Robert Martinez for 3 reasons
1. He is apart from Sir Alex, Moyes, and Rafa the best manager in the league.
2. He plays nice football
3. He is used to relegation dog fights

Williamson is tired, last year he did well as he had small run of games in the team then out again. he's tired he's making mistakes, need saylor back asap.
Although M'biwa salary looks like he's a replacement for Colo, looks like he's going, if not now then summer.

Martinez turned down liverpool to stay at wigan so what makes you think he will join a club hurtling towards the championship?

Had a chance in the summer to strengthen squad and didnt.
Was blaming injuries.
Now blames the fans.
Squad over performed last season and were lucky with injuries.
This season playing to their strengths and showing that they are woeful.
Same injuries that other teams suffer.
Best players leaving, no one worthy of mention arriving.
Total chaos.
Reading Wigan and Villa will finish above on current form.

20 Jan 2013 17:20:58
i posted the 3rd post and noticed I have made a mistake, marveux was subbed at 1.0 but the rest of my comments remain!