Newcastle Banter Archive August 20 2013

20 Aug 2013 22:25:26
Pardew, kinnear & carr are in nice in france tonight supposedly tying up transfer targets & r talking to cabayes representatives to try & get best price for him he's only interested in champions lge teams i'm hoping its gomis & thauvin excuse the spelling

Yeah nice casino

20 Aug 2013 22:03:06
so the scouts are in nice, well that rules out gomis as they could flew into lyon airport, so clubs in the nice area are marseille and montpellier my moneys on dbl deal for gignac and n'kolou from marseille will be interesting to see

20 Aug 2013 20:13:07
Said weeks ago we would have to sell to buy. Ashley has no interest in putting any money into the club. Call me negative but any deals that may be or may not be near completion is dependent on Cabeye going and at the right price for Ashley.

20 Aug 2013 16:45:24
two players overseas are in talks with officials, according to NUFC. com. I think possibly Vossen from genk and possibly Thauvin from lille. I still think gomis deal is dead.

Also hearing possible deal for a centre back, maybe tomkins

Nufc officials in france to discuss cabaye move to arsenal with his agents no other reason

Why send Carr and Pardew to talk to agents? If you're going to make stuff up, at least make it credible.

20 Aug 2013 15:22:50
Bn Arfa was the only positive even Krul got his angles wrong on first goal, our play and passing in the final third was diabolical, Cisse needs to go along with Anita who was a poor buy. Taylor is championship standard at best and generally the defence is too small as is the team even Man City had at least 4 players taller than

I thought that the most positive was young left back Dummet, he was thrown into the deep end and held his ground well and stopped the crosses comming in. he should play this weekend without doubt.

20 Aug 2013 15:16:59
As a Villa fan (in peace) you do have some quality. If you lose Cabeye still it is there. You need to look for different dimensions, Sissoko, Tiote, Cisse etc have all looked top quality (at times, although I bow to your superior knowledge)

You need to change up strategy. Bent would have been a great signing for you, Will Hughes of Derby and some hungry young British talent and experienced English players would change your fortunes.

You seem to have an unhappy ship, reminds me of us under McCleish, and the gloom is horrible, you have my sympathies. four or five British players could change this.
food for thought (fees are my estimates only)

Will Hughes of Derby - 8m

Callum McManaman of Wigan - 8m

Troy Deeney of Watford - 4m?
or even Doyle of Wolves 2.5m --- he works his socks off holds up well and stretches defences.

Barry on loan from City (although I want him to come back :)
Collins from West Ham?
an experienced defender too maybe.

Wise words, but Ashley won't spend that kind of money!

Im sure mcmanaman would get a very warm welcome at sid james!
Liono74

Thing is mate, Pardew hasn't got tactics. No plan A no plan B.

Good result for you against Arsenal. Good Team, very young with lots of potential.

Geordie Al

20 Aug 2013 14:21:53
So, last night was a bit of a mess wasn't it?!

What I want to know is, forgetting the strikers we have 'apparently' gone for and missed out on, why haven't we gone for any of the following players?
-Steven Caulker - great potential, future England player and he has gone to Cardiff.
-Marouane Chamakh - not the best striker but I'm sure someone that given a run of games and a bit of confidence would grab us a few goals and he has gone to West Ham.
-Tom Huddlestone - another one with bags of potential, he has gone to Hull!
-Wayne Bridge - good quality left back, ok getting on a bit but would be perfect, experienced cover for Santon and would mean we wouldn't have to resort to playing Jonas or Yanga there, he has gone to Reading.
-Nathan Redmond - another player who could turn out to be a real talent, young, quick, exciting player, far better than some of the other dross we have in the squad, now at Norwich.
-Gary Hooper - arguably better than all of the strikers we have (put together?), would have been worshiped up here had he scored goals, again gone to Norwich.
-Ross Turnbull - good cover for Krul, better than Elliott, could help Alnwick with his experience, gone to Doncaster Rovers.

There's 7 players listed there, and ok, maybe not some of the names we would like to see coming in but all of them would improve our squad and give much needed cover all over the pitch. And the really frustrating thing is, they have all gone to clubs that are either newly promoted, in divisions below us, or at most at the same level as us.

I for one would feel much happier had we signed even 3 payers like this going in to this season. Instead? We have signed one player on loan, who isn't fit enough to play yet.

I'm not an Ashley basher, and the appointment of Kinnear still makes no sense (seriously, what is he actually doing?) but something needs to give. Either sell up or put up!

Why can't we unsettle one or two players and upset their clubs? Just for the sheer hell of it, why not respond to Arsenal's offer with a public suggestion that they throw Theo Walcott or jack Wilshere in as part exchange? Or offer them £10m, going up to say £18m for the two? We could even let the press believe that wages would be no problem (it's a lie, but heck). I can't see either Joke or Pardew staying in their jobs much longer unless something positive happens soon. Vic

Problem with that theory is they wouldn't get unsettled. We could probably only unsettle division 1 playerS, we don't have anything to offer

I would not want any of the 7 players you just listed at our club.

Have you noticed how the players we signed were brilliant when they first came to the club, but now they look like they are running around with lead feet and unable to play football.

Clear as day, the management is the problem.

20 Aug 2013 13:18:36
most over rated defender we have Debuchey what was he thinking when he let them score the 4th goal he really did have a poor game just like last season against sunderland and liverpool he was absolute rubbish

Would rather have santon at right back and left back drumett and haidara, sell deburcy all right going forward but defending is shocking

Haidara at left back with Santon at right back is a good call.

Haidara has been very impressive. What a gem buy.

Debuchy is without doubt a quality international right back, but we do not have any fluidity in the team, right now we just have to pack the team with grafters.

20 Aug 2013 12:09:55
See JFK was right he can ring up any manager Sir AF, ArseW etc and discuss players.
Note to JFK when you make your next call you were appointed to buy not sell players.

20 Aug 2013 11:48:42
People say MA uses his business model for NUFC so let's see if this is true when applied to our club.
1 If a SD store is failing he closes it and moves to another location.
Hard to move SJP but perhaps the Rangers moves are similar
2 He restocks the SD store with new merchandise.
Not possible at NUFC as the DOF cannot find any.
3 He changes the SD store manager
Not possible at NUFC as it costs more to do this than the first 2 options.
Sorry MA the standard plan doesn't work think again.

20 Aug 2013 10:52:11
It's so frustrating having ashley here, because of him we haven't gone for as many players as we should have and have lost out on so many targets!
Willian - 25mil if we had a different owner we could of snatched him from Liverpool or spurs
Fred - 13mil went to shakhtar. Fantastic playmaker, perfect replacement for Cabaye at only 20 years old!
Bony - we simply refused to pay the money for him which is ridiculous
Aubameyang - ok not much you can do when a CL finalist comes in
Alderweireld - we still have a chance on him but I can't see us buying anyone else!
I could go on but so many players there that we've just played hardball with and we've paid the price.

We need a whole new board, maybe even a new manager But we need an owner who will love the club, will spend 30-50million each summer to help us push and stay in the top 6 maybe even challenge for champions league in the next 4-6 years. For example spurs have fantastic owners, although levy is quite hard to do transfer business with, he does get the job done. And the spurs fans actually chant about their owners! They spent like 50mil last summer and now they've spent about 60m this summer!

On september the 1st, if we buy one more player or no one, then us as fans of newcastle united do need to try and push for a change in the boardroom. We pay our money to go and see crap like this, to wake up every morning to hear or read that we've bought no one and see that we're linked with about 50 players, to travel up and down the country and sell out the away ends to see crap played by our beloved football team.

The highest chance of Ashley leaving is if we get relegated, which looks quite likely the way we played against city. Or to stop going to matches and start protesting outside st James' unless anyone else has got any ideas. But I don't think any of us will be able withstand another 2 years under Ashley. We need someone who is ambitious and will take us back to the top.

20 Aug 2013 09:56:08
question if cabaye goes who can ( should we go for ) in place of him. I've thought on it but can't come up with anyone. geordie tom

Well I personally would of gone for Fred (the one who's recently gone to Shakhtar) and Willian but because our owner is not ambitious enough we've missed out on both of them.

If he goes yous won't get no one because big mike is going to cash in on the half ok players get some money back then sell up haha. And yous are seriously going to have to go on strike or summit or it will be championship football next year trust me. That team last night was not a happy playing team, there's summit going on behind the doors and jk is not bothered one little bit.

I wouldn't mind Gareth Barry if the market is a bit dry.

He has bags of Premier League experience, he would shine at a club like Newcastle too.

It is amazing how many central midfielders we actually already have, but we would still need to buy 2 to cover Cabaye.

Anita & Tiote are just not good enough. Bigi is not going to be ready for the top level for a few years yet.

To be honest, Tiote is rubbish. Anita is not suited to the fast pace of the Premier League.

Siem de Jong

Romain Alessandrini

I would rather buy a striker and a left winger tbh

Jimmy1976

20 Aug 2013 08:19:38
Why is everyone saying 20mil for Kabab? We won't get anywhere near that maby 12mil max as with 20mil you could buy players ten times better than him he is not a world beater he's a good player maby like Arteta is at arsenal but would never be worth 20mil. The problem now is he didn't play last night as the the only reason is he wants to go. If we don't accept an offer soon he will loose intrest in the team and not want to play even if we don't sell him. Then he will put in a transfer request. I'd say accept 12mil which is probs his worth and they buy somone to replace him for 12mil but that won't happen,

20 Aug 2013 01:32:47
I really hope that tonight was a blessing in disguise.
We were awful, Ashley, please spend the money, you have lots, just spend it for crying out loud. We're a football team not a business.

19 Aug 2013 23:05:41
Looks like Cabaye's leaving, hopefully its at least 15million. We need to replace him, Manuel Fernandes? then get in Ince, Ideye and Alderweireld which would be 23million well spent. But I just don't think ashley will pay out the money for them.

19 Aug 2013 23:38:16
No excuses tonight from the Mugs - that performance was shocking.
You can accept being outplayed by a better team, but to come out second best from EVERY 50/50 challenge is unforgivable. They looked leggy, unfit and worst of all uninterested - and that was before half time!
Mind you, if Altidore had missed as many chances as Dzeko did tonight, Jozy would be a donkey again. Well let me tell you folks, no way he would be pushed off the ball like Cisse was all game. As last season and the one before, Krul MOTM again.
Three more lacklustre performances like that and it's bye-bye Pards, hello Joe!

Thanks for your concern. But I would be more worried about getting beat of relegation candidates Fulham than title challengers Man City. Thanks again.

20 Aug 2013 00:02:10
Well well
I'm not here to laugh or make snide comments
But you came on to our page laughing and having a go because we were unluckily defeated by a descent Fulham side where we played fantastic football and created many chances, then your team go out and don't even put an effort in against I admit a fantastic side, but in the manor your 'Superstars' performed, well no other way of saying it, disgraceful
Krul was amazing but if you don't make changes with the team, or management, you will become the next Sunderland, relying on ya keeper all the time

So, next time you have a dig, think about it

Well, we can't really argue, he is right
If we don't improve we will just be dependent on Krul all season like they were with Mignolet

Next time you make a dig you might want to get your facts right. Magnificent football? Great chances? you had 3 shots on target all game against a very poor Fulham side. We played a world class team with 10 most for most of it. Why do you lot keep trying to dress up your defeat at home to a poor team. Relying on a goalkeeper? Isn't that what kept you up last season? Your best player was a keeper. So before you come on here you might want to think about it.

Fantastic football? Many chances? You plonker! You were hitting shots from the half way line you muppet. I admit you played OK, but not fantastic. And those many chances? Anyone can have 20 shots but how many did you score?

Geordie Al

You were embarrassed to Fulham. I'd rather lose to a quality side than to a poor team like Fulham.

Fulham always sit back when they play away.

Every team looks good playing Fulham at home, and most beat them.

You will not get an easier game to have posession of the ball than Fulham. If you cannot win a game with the ball what is going to happen in the rest of the games?

Our season can only get better with easier games to come, Sunderland's can only get worse.