Newcastle Banter Archive October 01 2013
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01 Oct 2013 19:54:28
Team for Cardiff, players who under perform need dropped and those who play well in the cup ect deserve a start regardless who they are.
Krul
Anita coloccini Williamson dummett
Tiote
Santon Sissoko Gouffran
Cabaye
Remy
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Not to sure about Anita right back but agree with the rest
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Anita at rightback and santon in midfield? Are you joking?
Tiote needs to be dropped. Cabeye, Sissoko and Anita in CM.
Yes Dummett at left back and Williamson in the middle. Should give Mbiwa a game at rightback as would be more solid than Debuchy.
Ben Arfa, Gouffran and Remy attacking.
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You couldn't ask Mwiba to hold a box of eggs nevermind play right back
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01 Oct 2013 18:57:30
Pardews first mistake was to pu BenArfa on left wing and Guffran on right (I know he was scared of Baines) He should have left them on the wings they have being playing regulary and just had Anita playing like an old fashioned right half to look afer the Baines threat. if Baines came forward he then leaves BenArfa in space on the right where he is a his most dangerous. where did the first goal come from on the left where Ben Arfa wasnt to be seen. Pardews second third and foryh mistake not having a defence coach DesToon
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Careful Ashley may well give you a call
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Theres a good defensive coach at Middlesbrough sunderland and Hartlepool must be a good bet every week on the coupons both teams to score also 2-2 or 3-2 rev on all north east teams could make a nice profit does anyone know if you can back clean sheets as Newcastle sunderland boro and Hartlepool won't keep many
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What's the use of good coaches he can never see an end product Ashley only wants success on his terms and that is on the cheap
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01 Oct 2013 17:49:36
How anyone can point fingers at Krul is beyond me. Imagine playing in behind that defense. Not surprised he looks shaky. That 3rd goal is something from a Sunday morning.
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These same people were saying he's worldclass and gave him a value of over 10million during the summer.
He's a quality keeper, still young, still learning. Wish we had him at sunderland want to swap for Westwood?please swap pretty please.
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Read original post mate i'm sunderland and our goalkeeper has the same problem as what he is saying about krull, we have 2 midfield players playing left and right back and oshea and cuellar who can't tackle and have no pace in the middle when we play Newcastle I fear for whoever comes up against ben arfa because if his on a good day he will destroy them he might even finish their career as their confidence will be so low
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Foster was a big mistake to let go and he is better than Krull
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Bull***t again from Zeus12, Forster is playing in 6th level football.
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01 Oct 2013 16:15:11
My lineup for cardiff
Krul
Debuchy Williamson Coloccini Dummett
Santon Cabaye Tiote Sammy
Ben Arfa
Remy
Santon is not a fullback he needs to be pushed up, he's been awful. We've conceded so many goals because of him, the fact he just let Deulofeu just walk past him is disgusting. Sammy Dummett and Willo will give us some pride and commitment because I don't care how good or bad they are, they are proud to wear a black and white shirt and put in 100%, m'biwa, sissoko, santon didn't even put in 50%
I'm very worried for the cardiff match, we've been so bad in our last 2 league games we look like a team whos battling for relegation. Under pardew we've never really put 2 or 3 goals against a team within the first twenty minutes home or away. we've just conceded 2 or 3 goals in the first 20 minutes. We've never had a philosophy that we've stuck to, for me i've always known newcastle as an attacking fluid team, i've never seen us win or draw a game by setting up defensive.
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You are just randomly throwing in players. Dummett may deserve a game but not Sammy, he's had plenty of opportunities and rarely impresses. Need a settled team with settled formation and give players chance. M'biwa has had 1 maybe 2 stinkers since he's been here. How many has willo had?
Krul
Deb colo m'biwa santon
Anita cabaye sisoko
Hba
Cisse remy
Dannitoon
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Sammy is awful and is a only just a better version of his brother. Why drop Gouffran he was the only member of the team who looked interested and put a shift in.
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We will win at Cardiff & Pardew will be full if it BUT it is the next 5 games after this when we see how inadequate the team is & we will take some hammerings
Full backs crap no CB and Krull just ticking over
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Said this last year lads santon was poor and he is even worse without jonas
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How can you not put gouffran in for saturday he ran his arse off the other night. I thought he had a decent game.
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Santon has way too much flair to be a defender for us in my book. That is okay for teams like Real Madrid, but we are leaky enough as it is.
I think we should cash in on him, sell him to A. C Milan who are known admirers. Dummett and Haidara are good enough to fight it out for that left back slot.
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Dannitoon: your defence is the same as that demolished by Everton, and no place for Goofy? When a team's in the s*** and confidence is low you need a solid defence as the basis for a better performance, and you need to get rid of passengers like Cisse and Ben Arfa. I'd put those two on the bench for Cardiff, put Dummet or Mapou at LB and Santon on either wing. Is Taylor ready to play? If not, Willo. And I'd drop Krul to the bench. Vic
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That's my point. Consistent team brings results. Willo is not good enough. Go back a few posts near transfer window n everyone disappointed he stayed. A reasonable 45mins against a team 3-0 does not change his inability to utilise his height or built
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Consistently good or consistently poor, that's the problem. The defence isn't working well as a unit. I don't know the answer, but changes are necessary. Vic
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01 Oct 2013 15:45:04
I have always backed pardew and his staff but now I am rapidly losing faith in them. He had no plan b last night (didn't have one in the hull or city game) and he struggles massively to get the best out of our decent and average players i. e sissoko, tiote, mbiwa, santon, debuchy, cisse.
Sort it out pardew.
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I agree, I lost faith in them a while ago though. To me we need a good coaching staff behind Pardew, Carver and Stone are way out their depth at this level. Before anyone says Carver worked with Sir Bobby, yes he did, BUT did he take anything in? How has Stone got a 1st team coaching spot? Rumours that Pardew is ready to resign are probably way off the mark but maybe that would be in everyones interests while there is time to change our style, tactics etc. Pardew, in my opinion, gives too much respect to opposition but with our flair players why? Let them worry about us, go at them. I would welcome a change now as long as Kinnear and Pullis stay well away. Maybe we missed a trick not bringing Maclaren in as 1st team coach? Ferguson and Redknapp BOTH give him high praise as a coach.
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Your catching up m8 sad but we all are
in the same boat
Can't see much positivity over the next weeks the rot has been allowed to set in BUT we all know the reasons why
Ashley
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Haha thanks for not having a go at me zeus lol
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Saying he did not have a plan B is not exactly accurate. How did we win the 2nd half 2-0 if there was no plan B?
The truth is we did have a working plan B, but Pardew waiting too long to switch to it.
To be fair I have not often seen a manager make 2 subs and switch formation before half-time, that is normally to protect players from embarrassment.
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Save players from embarrassment are you having a laugh
These players look to sort of just come out of a circus should have been dragged off
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01 Oct 2013 15:36:48
What do you reckon about 3-5-2 when Tayls is fit again?
Krull
Taylor Collo Willo
Debuchy Anita Cabaye Dummet
HBA
Remy Gouffy
Spire Toon
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Poor at best.
M'biwa is better than willo. My nan is better than willo. She can jump higher too.
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Ok
1. no way will pardew think of that idea.
2. The team are not good enough to play as a team to regroup and attack and defend as a unit.
3. we have a team of individuals
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Sorry but M'biwa was like a bairn running around the school yard he ran away from the ball all night. williamson came on and got at lakaku did'nt give him as much space as he was getting in the first half
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01 Oct 2013 15:34:12
Why take off Anita when we are chasing the game and leave Tiote on when he was on a yellow card and is a poor footballer and offers nothing going forward. Anita is a quality passer look at that ball for Gouufy at the start of the second half. And why remove Ben Arfa when you are chasing a game and again leave Tiote on, is Tiote going to win you a game or even get you a goal. no. Pardew got it very wrong yesterday and before you start defending him by saying he brought Williamson on at half time, that was hardly footballing genius was it, just obvious to anyone who watched the first half and has half a football brain.
I'm very concerned about Krull too, he should have stopped the first goal (beaten at his near post) and the third, the sad thing is that he is still the best we have. Santon has looked rubbish all season and Dummet has to start against Cardiff along with Williamson and Tiote must be dropped.
Krull
Debuchy Willo Collo Dummet
Anita Sissoko
Cabaye
HBA Remy Gouffy
Spire Toon
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Agree that Tiote shouldn't be playing, he get caught out of position all the time then has to make a rash tackle trying to make up for it.
Pardew defo got it wrong.
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I remember a part early in the game where Tiote gave the ball away, and had to run back and head the ball off the line after he gifted Everton an attack on goal. That is the story of Tiote as a player right there.
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01 Oct 2013 08:38:00
Tim Krul was rubbish yesterday I hope these ruomers are true about a new Gk coming in in January (Zoet) but personaly I think Elliot is a better goalkeeper he shouldn't be on the bench for the next game
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Apparently we refused to pay the 7m they asked for zoet
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Your goalkeepers rubbish, count yourself lucky we are stuck with Westwood till January at least.
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Krul has 1 poor effort to make it 3-0. hardly deserves the barraking
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I reckon Krul could have done much better with 2 goals.
What is strange is that he had an absolute stinker the last time we played Everton too. He let in a very tame goal, and then let Baines' score from about 35 yards out.
He makes some good reflex stops now and again, but I have never rated him anything more than a 2nd choice.
To be fair, Krul is not exactly protected by a solid back line, so he has to make more saves than the average keeper, but he is still not the finished article.
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What you talking about my goalkeeper's rubbish? Krul is my goalkeeper not westwood
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He was at fault for 1st goal and the 3rd he flapped about for there 3rd
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We are NUFC not barca no citeh not Milan. We don't have the worlds best so don't expect that type of performance. I actually think ap has lost the players respect, especially over cabaye scandal.
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What I meant was your saying Krul is useless (when he's a good keeper) how do you think we (Sunderland) feel we are stuck with Westwood he's useless.
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01 Oct 2013 01:15:06
Read in a newspaper article a interview with joe kinnear. he was asked about early season and ask on his thoughts of Wonga. Kinnear stated that Wonga is the best manager Arsenal have had in a long time
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01 Oct 2013 01:00:35
Everton fan here and not to gloat.
What happened 1st half. we out played you lot but in second half, well all I can say is I've definitely got no finger nails left. very unlucky and if you play the rest of srason like you did in second half I honestly believe that euro league beckons for you. great game to watch
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We are nothing with out Cabaye
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Your joking,, championship with sunderland and boro, more like,
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30 Sep 2013 23:38:28
Everton fan in peace
Don't think I've ever seen a team play so poorly against us like you lot did first half, first 20 mins second half you looked a decent side but not in a biased way the scorline made it look a close game where in reality it could have been 7 at halftime, we took our foot off the gas and it showed with the sloppy second goal you lot scored, absolute worldie from cabaye though, shame your team is all foreign as I think a big thing you lot lack is the local passion, like we have with baines jagielka Barkley etc what happened to that young striker Campbell? Seen him once or twice and he looked very exciting?
Anyway good luck for the season hopefully you will get a decent manager in as you are some passionate fans who like ourselves are due some success
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You didn't take your foot of the gas at half time. We closed you down faster and exposed your physical players inability to play a passing game when under pressure.
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Everton DID take their foot off the gas. It could of been 7 or 8 nill at halftime.
They eased off thinking the game was over but newcastle caught them by suprise with an early goal and a bit of momenum.
Fair play to newcastle for a decent second half and effort.
Although if Everton wanted too they could of embarrassed newcastle.
Cabaye and remy are the only highlights for newcastle at the moment, take them out and your relegation fodder
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