Newcastle Banter Archive June 18 2013

18 Jun 2013 14:18:09
Ed, do you know when Newcastle will release their new home and alternate kits for the new season? {Ed003's Note - nope sorry,probs the end of this month like most other clubs}

Away kit already out

18 Jun 2013 19:03:36
In my opinion the kinnear appointment is a joke but its done and we can't do anything about it so let's back the board staff and players like we always do and hope for a good season

Get behind the board staff and players like we always do, yeah, that's helping things isn't it? When will people wake up and stop supporting Ashley and his hare brained running of this club?

18 Jun 2013 17:28:54
jobs for mates or what llambias, pardew, Kinnear back who next a return for wise then Vinnie jones what a joke all Wimbledon dog lads get ye money on mike's next buy being Newcastle dog track

18 Jun 2013 15:57:50
its now official Jo Kin is DoF so let's get used to it, we have endured worse things over the years and if he pulls off a couple of top signings over the next couple of weeks we might get happy. football is funny and you never know its so stupid it might work

Not that funny its hilarious

18 Jun 2013 13:15:24
Who'd like to see us go into the south american markets? Like brazil, colombia, uruguay. Give us a bit more technique and style to our play. We hardly have a chance of getting him but players like luis muriel, wellington nem etc.

That is where Porto and Benfica scout their players.

You just have to look at the style of football and players that those 2 teams produce to know they are looking in the right place.

You really think old joe could get any of those to Newcastle? No chance.

Only good if we get coaching staff to match. During periods of 'loss of form' or to develop players, coaches need to get players playing the right way, rather than being told to 'lump it up top to Shola'.

In Portugal, a Brazilian can come to play football without a work permit. Permitting for other South Americans is also easy. In Italy its a little harder but still quite easy.

In places like Ukraine, it is simple to get a work permit for a foreign player.

In Britain, however, a work permit is very hard to get and a club (or a company) must demonstrate that they are recruiting a foreign person who has skills that cannot be found in the EU. It could be engineering skills or football skills, but the system is designed so that you must employ an EU national over any other nationality. As such it is only "exceptional" players that get work permits. If you find a young Brazilian wonderkid, you have to convince the Home Office (or Visa department) that he is so good that there is no one in the EU with anything like his potential. It is not easy to get work permits for these players. For older players, they usually look at their international record, so if you find a quality player who doesn't get into the international team it is really hard to get a work permit.

Additionally, teams in the UK must own 100% of a player's rights. There is no such restriction on teams in Portugal, Italy or Spain. As such it is easier for teams from these leagues to conclude the commercial aspects of the deal as well as the regulatory process.

You have to remember that there are different regulations for different countries and leagues and this adversely affects teams from certain countries in certain activities. It's not as easy as going to Brazil to scout players.

18 Jun 2013 11:47:27
Having just listened to the Talk Sport interview with Joe Kinnear in full, I am more convinced than ever that Newcastle United will implode this season.
There will either be a fan revolt of the highest order, a complete breakdown of backroom moral (due Pardews rightful refusal to walk away from a seven year contract) or a costly Pardew sacking and Kinnear appointment (temporary or otherwise) or even a combination of one or more of these events.
This is a disastrous appointment of a bumbling, rambling person who makes this club an international laughing stock and serves only to demonstate the utter contempt in which the owner holds the fans. And all this without even mentioning the possibility of players walking or engineering a way out. As for attracting players to come here, let's pray they don't listen to this interview. I suggest that you the fans do.

There won't be, the last thing we need is negativity. He will be better at sorting out deals than llambias.

I must be in the minority.

The more Kinnear speaks the more I like him.

He is no nonsense, he has made it clear he is not at the club to dilly dally.

He wants to go out and get Newcastle the best possible team on the budget and move on any players that are not good enough.

I was not convinced at first but I am starting to like the bloke.

Why should we give the snipers the joy of turning against our own club.

We are supposed to be the best supporters in the league, let's prove it.

Kinnear is a total character and actually the type of person we normally take to, give him a chance, you may be surprised.

JFK is a complete joke But is better than Llambias & Pardew by miles (shows how bad they are)
Fans will at least get a response even if they don't like it as JFK takes no prisoners so good Luck to him ABD to us fans

From a Norwich fan. but lived in Newcastle so I understand the passion. I can't believe NUFC have done this. yes there is something missing but a doddering forgetful, fantasist who thinks he is friends with everyone? A Sir Bobby Robson he is not. Incredibly sad state.

Agree with 3rd post, why have a director of football from a foreign country (Like sunderland have) that none of the staff at newcastle have never met when they can have someone they get along with and will work well.

Blindly following the crowd is one thing but allowing our club to carry on like this is criminal. There is nothing positive about this person being appointed.

'Look, children, here comes Mr Misery again. He sounds very unhappy, doesn't he? What's that, Jimmy? He's always effing miserable? Now, now, we don't use bad language, Jimmy. Mr Misery only wants that nasty Mr Ashley to leave. And Mr Pardew, of course. Oh, and Mr Llambias and now Mr Kinnear. Yes, Jimmy, you're right, he wants every effing c*** to eff off, but we don't use bad language, do we? Now children let's sing a song to cheer up poor Mr Misery. If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands. '

It sounded more like JK was drunk last night nearly every thing he said was incorrect or disrespectful to players, staff and supporters. this will end in disaster

All very noble stuff this gentlemen but the truth of the matter is simple; if Sunderland, for example, had appointed Kinnear as director of football, you would now be crying with laughter. There's brave faces and just plain stupidity.

The biggest difference between them is that our DOF is up to date with modern football as against a dinosaur.
JToon you must be the most optomistic fan I have ever seen. Trying to be positive when you see the real changes to the running and management of our club must be very hard.

18 Jun 2013 11:09:28
Took me a couple of days to digest the rebirth of JK at the toon and i'm finding it difficult to take many positives from the latest debarcle. MA seems to be turning the corner then the wheels come off again but Joe is here so we have to look forward and be positive as the name says we are UNITED.
On a good note I do think JK will do a much better job than Llambias in negotiating with players coming in as his agenda will not be to buy cheap and get a good sell on fee. I also think JK will identify the weak links and not hesitate in shipping out the deadwood. Hopefully he can give pardew some advice on tactics. there's no disputing that JK is an old school footballing man who will have a vast army of contacts and friends throughout all the football leagues and with a bit of luck this will help us bring in the quality we need and get clubs for the ones we don't.
KEEP THE FAITH!

Totally agree mate.

Jk was appointed by MA so will have been told buy cheap sell high, don't think because kinnear is now the transfer guy that the overal plan will have changed.

Blind faith?

And me too! Let's have a bit of Geordie optimism for a welcome change.

18 Jun 2013 09:17:41
If this whole Joe Kinnear thing is a ploy to make Pardew look better by comparison, it's working!

I almost feel sorry for Pardew having to work with the man.

Him, and Yohan Kebab.

Well i'm pleased the toon have a director of football and such a quality bloke!

18 Jun 2013 07:56:31
Joe Kinnear has said he has more intelligence than the toon army. Great statement coming from a bloke who couldn't even pronounce our players names correctly. What joke this bloke is.

Baldrick's turnip knows more about football than 99% of the so-called fans who post on here.

18 Jun 2013 07:16:18
Trying to justify Joe Kinnears appointment - now that's funny! Bing