Newcastle Banter Archive February 18 2014

18 Feb 2014 14:23:42
Mike Phelan, Rene Meulensteen and Ray Wilkins all available. Get in phelan as assistant manager and Meulensteen and Wilkins as coaches, all very intelligent and know their football

Totally agree, get rid of the two numpties Carver and Stone. Maybe then we wouldn't destroy the flair players in the squad.

Mike Ashley doesn't like hiring people who know what they're doing.

Like a boat without oars we are drifting & waiting for another fine mess from Ashley
Remy wants out the Mad House & it's rumoured another 5 first team players are unhappy & will probably be sold
to let part of what comes in be used as bait money
Ashley will not spend one £ of the £50m profit that came in this season & when you think on top of that 25m he has had in salary and interest it is Shocking

Look on the bright side Art, the more he takes the closer we are to him thinking it's time to jump ship. He can have my back teeth if it'll help.

18 Feb 2014 13:41:07
And here's another thing to think about. Why would Ashley sell NUFC to buy Rangers? Newcastle in the Prem get far more TV coverage worldwide than Gers will ever get, even if they do get back into the Champs League. For Rangers to get to the later, more lucrative stages would require massive investment in top players, and that'll never happen. NU v Man Utd, or Rangers v Ross County - which game do you think would draw most viewers in Japan or China, the most publicity for Sports Direct? Why sell NUFC at all, when he can rake in the TV money? Because those nasty Geordies don't like him?

All they'd have to do is get to the group stages and then they could be put up against giants like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Juventus. They have a huge fan base and a nice big stadium to plaster sports direct advertisement with. They would be up there with Celtic for the media money as soon as they get back into the SPL and would require significantly less money to spend to challenge for the title and cups than it would for us.

SC7 dead right sounds like a plan

SC7 and ART: wishful thinking, chaps? Rangers have a very poor record in Europe generally and Champs League in particular - much worse than Celtic. My point stands: to get to the later stages would be a fantastic achievement requiring a massive investment in top class players. The income for Rangers would be piddling in comparison to the money to be made from NU in the Prem. Do you know how much (little) SPL clubs get from TV? £80m over 5 years shared between 10 clubs, compared to £60m pa for each club in England. Rangers would have to WIN the CL to make as much! (Barcelona got £50m for their win). I know Ashley likes a gamble, but! He could do much better by raking in the TV cash here and investing enough over time to get NUFC back into the top four, or not, more likely.

Now if Rangers could join the EPL, THAT would be a plan.

We will have to wait and see then Vic Rangers are trying to reinvent themselves & perhaps Ashley. Wants to be party of that

I seem to remember was it not you who stated we would get 25m plus for Cabaye when eventually only one club would pay 20m perhaps your lateral thinking may require a different slant.

Art: Not quite right, Art. Vida (I think) started the debate by saying Cabaye would be sold for £15m, I challenged him by saying that Cabaye SHOULD fetch £25m, and that I certainly wouldn't sell him for less - an opinion that Ashley is reported to have agreed with, and the best reports from France say that PSG paid £20m up front, with £3. 6 m to follow in add-ons. A damned sight closer to my estimate of his value than Vida's - or yours? And now he's scoring for PSG in the Champs League. Are you now saying I got it wrong? But to go back to the Rangers business, the rumours of Ashley's interest are getting old now and my own opinion is that he's done the sums and turned them down. As you rightly say, we'll have to wait and see.

It's just called 'thinking', Art. I recommend it. So are you saying that Ashley is about to sell NU and buy Rangers?

Rubbish Vic I never sad that & the bet you had you lost

Art: Wrong again. Bet not lost. Check your facts before posting.

Vic, I think champions league gets WAY more money and bonuses just for qualification anyway even if it doesn't attract many viewers on TV.

Vic of course I am right just seems a problem 4 U to admit any one has any idea or knows a bit more than you
Cabaye was sold a lot less than you said and NO UK club bid for him more than 12M

Art: this could go on ad nauseam, so this will be my last post on the subject regardless of anything else you may post. To recap: I did NOT say that Cabaye would be sold for £25m. I DID say that Ashley would not sell him for £15m. I was right. I DID speculate that Ashley should have a figure around £25 m in mind. I was right on that too. These are simple facts which you can check. So check 'em, and when you've done that chuck my actual words back at me if you can. If you can't, we'll all know what you are.

And Art, I won't insult you by speculating on your level of honesty or intelligence, but you must have access to t'interweb and even a non-savvy old codger like me can fiddle around searching out information. The figures I quoted in my second post above were taken from the appropriate sites. That's not being clever, just what normal people of normal intelligence do.

And Victor there lies the problem Media who are assuming and guessing
Do you suggest Ashley or PSG would allow the fee to be accurately published

Suggest whenever you get the chance ( virtually impossible) check the accounts
thats the official hidden language