Newcastle Banter Archive January 11 2013

11 Jan 2013 17:49:57
If Coloccini leaves we need 2 new center backs. But i simply not think that James Tomkins is good enough. I hope Pardew signs Douglas which i see as a possible replacement for Coloccini. And then i think we should sign Isimat Mirin also.

Maybe Kouyate?

Probably won't get either of them, we tried but couln't get them over the line.

Reading make offer for Kelly of Fulham this morning, by 5.00pm he's all signed up.

Yet we are supposedly interested in players for weeks, in talks for weeks, they make derogitory offer or offer monkeys wages and can't get players over the line.

Something very wrong with our club at present. Very worrying times. Big three games coming up when we should be looking to get 7 points minimum, but can't see it.

I know some people on here will say be patient, but realistically we all knew Ba was going this window ( we needed another striker before tBa going) and have needed a centre half for twelve months, not to mention a couple of experienced extra players to boost squad six months ago. Good we got Debuchy but penny pinching means he's arrived six months to late. Don't want us to always over pay for players but sometimes to get the right man you have to (i.e Man you buying Van Persie, Fergie knew he had a better chance with him than letting City buy him).

11 Jan 2013 16:42:19
Several newcastle players considering future after sale of Ba. Talk of discontent in the dressing room and manager struggling with players morale. Attitude shown in fa cup when well known that would be a defeat was there for all to see.

Several players will be looking to leave in January or the summer as newcastle struggles to stay in premier league. Behind scenes many unhappy players.

We had no option with BA so why would other players want to go now. The team will be better once we have injured players available and we bring in new transfers in January. BA wasn't the main man the second half of last season and part of the problem this season is that we have changed the formation to keep him happy. Now he has gone we can start playing people in their correct positions again.

11 Jan 2013 16:23:12
im still behind alan pardew no matter what. he runs the team. positivity not negitivity.mag forever

I like Pardew, he has a bit of class about him and obviously cares about us winning but todays game is the deal breaker for me.

Norwich are in bad form and we have players back from injury, this is the game that will define our season.

11 Jan 2013 14:34:39
Can I just say to all the people that think Ashley is a great guy for clearing the club debt.

Ashley loaned the club money to clear the debt, the club is now in debt to Ashley.

Yes, Ashley did not ask for interest, but, and here is the big but, As Ashley is the loanee he sets the payback rate from the club to himself.

Basically Ashley can keep pocketing as much profit as he wants while not paying the debt back, leaving a new owner of the club (if it ever happens) in debt to Ashley.

Come on folks, please realise what is going on.

Not true it all has to be shown in club financial returns and they do not show Ashley taking money out of the club. Get your facts right before posting utter rubbish

Ashley had no option but to stump up because he did not do his due dilligence before buying the club so did not realise that with Sir John leaving the club so did his guarantee on the bank loan for the ground redevelopment so Ashley HAD TO cough up. It was then his stupidity in employing Wise and not backing Special K then employing JokeInHere and leaving it too late to bring SHearer in that caused us to go down which meant he again HAD TO put his hand in his pocket to protect his investment. As ED stated in a different post I'd be intrigued to see if teh accounts show if Ashley is taking a salary from the club and then we will know if he really is not taking any money out.

Some people just don't understand basic arithmetic. Ashley wants what? 250mill? for the club; NUFC PLC owes Ashley 140 mill. The club couldn't pay its way without the loan and was well on the way to going bust. Any buyer would have to fork out both sums - how much do the Ashley-haters think a new owner is going to have left over for transfers?

Ashley invested millions in facilities

And if ashley hadn't got involved where would newcaastle be in the same state as rangers or deportivo i would have thought

''Not true it all has to be shown in club financial returns and they do not show Ashley taking money out of the club. Get your facts right before posting utter rubbish''

Of course it has to be shown in financial returns, who said it didn't??

You do not get it do you, because Ashley owns the loan/debt he has more control of how much profit he can take out of the club.

It is not rocket science is it.

''And if ashley hadn't got involved where would newcaastle be in the same state as rangers or deportivo i would have thought''

EH?

Rangers are in trouble for tax dodging, different thing all together.

And Newcastle were an established premier league club before Ashley arrived, the sustained income made it possible for anyone to come to the club and carry things on so I am not sure where you get that one from.

Look at how Glazer is running Man Utd, debt is never a nice thing to have hanging over a club but it can more than certainly be managed.

The club is in more debt now than it was before Ashley came to the club.

And that is because Ashley has been ruining the club.

Excuse me if I do not hail him as some kind of saviour.

11 Jan 2013 11:50:10
With colloccini going surely our priority is two get two cb . Not really sure about a the left back bong, Anita can play in either full back positions he did for Ajax . I know that sissoko is a player that ap likes and would prefer to get him in the summer. But tiote in the afcon I think we should get him now. Plus tiote not been in the best form this season and its going to be a really hard task to get in to Europe this year, and if we are relegated we will lose a lot of players . And this saga with remy, do we really want a player who is obsivly waiting to see if a top team comes in for him, we need players that want to come and enjoy playing for us and will be loyal, like deburcy he came out and stated he wants to come here, even when juventus and Madrid were sniffing around. I think we should move on from remy and go for The striker form st etteine he's young and has more to prove and also graham from Swansea, he's supported us as a kid and would be a good. Ins: mirin, Tomkins, sissoko, Danny graham and the st etteine striker. The next four pl games ar crucial, ideally we need to win all four . If colloccini goest it could be a blessing in disguise cos he's is our highest payed player and would free up wages fror improvement .

Nothing about Colo going would be a blessing, without him you'll see how shocking Willo and Simpson are without him to hold them up.

11 Jan 2013 10:50:40
with coloccini wanting to leave the club immediately... has pardew lost the dressing room...? ...geordie tom . ED what's your take on this mate ? {Ed013's Note - If its true, he gets to see what goes on inside the club and probably doesn't like it so see's a move away as his last big move if it happens}

Cheers for getting back ...geordie tom

Sorry Ed13 but that's just pure speculation and rumour mongering. There has never been any suggestion that a) Coloccini sees anymore behind the scenes than any other player and b) that his reasons are anything other than family related.

DomW

11 Jan 2013 09:45:58
I rekon that Debuchy may play on the right against Norwich with Simo still at RB... just a thought, we all know how defensive pardew is...

TA

Simpson has a broken toe and is too busy playing Posh and Becks wannabe's with Tulisa.

Playing a player with a broken toe, when a better player in that position has just been signed?

Debuchy will play right back. Probably Obertan infront of him. (both french speaking which may help for his first game).

Col

Simo has a broken toe and will not be playing

He's hardly going to play Simpson with a broken toe.