06 Sep 2014 13:41:40
I would just like to say that I did post before the summer that Ashley was seeking to buy Rangers. I still think this will happen, not sure of the rules about owning two clubs but I'm sure I read somewhere that he can do this. I hope he buys Rangers and sells up

1.) 06 Sep 2014
Yes he can buy rangers, if we ever get back to Europe we won't be allowed to face them if also still owned by Ashley.

{Ed007's Note - No he can't. The SFA won't allow him to own any more than 10%.}

2.) 06 Sep 2014
Well said Ed

3.) 06 Sep 2014
Hope reports are right and Ashley aims to move on
But can't see him killing the Golden Goose

4.) 06 Sep 2014
06 Sep 2014 20:03:13
I had a look on the Rangers page and a lot of people seem to want Ashley to buy. bless them

{Ed007's Note - They'll take anyone, Jimmy, it's desperate times. They have around £1.2 million in the bank and £620,000 of that was ringfenced in court yesterday in a case involving monies owed to an ex-director. With payroll due in 2 weeks they don't have enough money to even cover that and are rushing through a share issue to raise £4 million which will see them through to December where they will need further investment. There are also 2 outstanding loans, £1m from a supporter and £500k from a director, that were needed to complete last season, they were due repaid at the end of August.
It would cost MA serious millions just to put Rangers on an even keel between buying up shares, investing in the team, the major repairs needed at the dilapidated stadium and the crumbling training ground, it would be many years before he would see any hint of breaking even let alone even think about making a profit. His deal with selling the merchandise will make him a lot of money with no serioius outlay, between that deal, (he now also owns the naming rights to Ibrox, they cost him £1 and if he sold them to anyone else he gets the money estimated at £3/4 million p.a.) and the TV money he has coming in at Newcastle he has the best of both worlds IMO.
If you want to make money from owning a football club there's not much chance of it happening in Scotland.
Newcastle were paid £77,379, 252 in TV money ALONE last season, the club currently trading as Rangers lost over £70 million since relaunching in 2012. If you were a businessman which club would you rather own? Personally I would be amazed if there is any truth in the whole rumour, it just wouldn't make any sense, it would need to be someone who had an affinity with club and was willing to bankroll a moneypit.}

5.) 06 Sep 2014
Ed: thanks for the info. Seems like anyone with a few bob in the bank could acquire Gers and all of the profits that some dodo's mistakenly imagine would accrue. As I've said before,
NUFC are, and will remain so, far more profitable than Rangers. Otherwise, there'd be a long queue of chancers waiting to take them on. Simples.

6.) 06 Sep 2014
Good Info Ed 7 great to read someone who knows what they are talking about

7.) 06 Sep 2014
Come on then, art and vida. If two 'brains' are better than one, let the whole world have the benefit of your joint wisdom. You say that you have heard that Ashley is preparing to sell (but no source, of course) So man up, if you can, and put your reputations as know-all pundits on the line and tell us: is Ashley going to sell NUFC in order to buy Gers, or is this just another load of gobs**** from the Terrible Twins?

8.) 06 Sep 2014
06 Sep 2014 22:28:34
I guess buying out Rangers would depend on what Ashley would get from selling Newcastle. If he spent money in Rangers they would be champions league in a few years the advertising in Europe every year can't be dismissed. I am still hopeful as its the only realistic or probable way of Ashley leaving

{Ed007's Note - It would cost him 10s of millions to even get close to Celtic, on and off the park, and it will be years before Rangers get anywhere near the qualifiers to the CL. Celtic were paid £22 million by UEFA in 2012/13 for reaching the last 16 of the CL, that included 2 games against Barca and 2 against Juventus, even that doesn't dent the money Newcastle get from Sly TV.
The club currently operating as Rangers are struggling to make it to Christmas without undergoing an insolvency event and you're talking about them playing in the CL- do you seriously see MA giving up EPL TV money to bankroll a financial basketcase of a club just to get some free advertising? If MA takes over at Ibrox he is guaranteed one thing - he will lose a hell of a lot of money.}

9.) 06 Sep 2014
Vic you are a disgrace to this Newcastle page
Your apathetic comments seem to be exactly what Pardew would say
Just man up and accept there are people on here way ahead if you

10.) 06 Sep 2014
It seems if anyone has a similar view you have a way of saying do you want to be in my gang and like GG you are in the widerness
Just say your piece and move on Newcastle supporter no wonder we are in trouble

11.) 06 Sep 2014
Ed: didn't I say months ago that NUFC was a far more profitable business than Gers even in Europe? Why, in heaven's name, would Ashley sel up NUFC, a cash cow, in order to acquire a shambles like Rangers? If he can turn a profit from both, why give the best one up? And where are the buyers for NUFC? We'll have to ask vida, who knows everythinh.

{Ed007's Note - You're spot on and the only way the retail contract can be broken is if they go into liquidation again, even if the club is sold (without liquidation) MA's deal still stands. He has the only thing at Ibrox that can make money sewn up and still has the riches from owning an EPL club, it's win win for him.}

12.) 07 Sep 2014
Vic I do not profess to know everything but one thing for sure I know more than you probably about everything.

I think most people understand but for the one person that does not I will say again
I heard a rumour that MA is putting his club in order because he is thinking of selling, it is something I was told by people who supposedly know & from whom I have been given information previously that became true.
It is not something that I know as a fact and I have never said MA is selling to buy Rangers although it would be graet it would be foolish but that may be a possibility.

This is a banter page & any news especially even possibly positive about MA and the team is welcome and anyone with any info is of course is also welcome to share it, but expect you Vic who has been on here a long time to not get the point or try another slant to try and belittle anything anyone writes if he cannot grasp the point.

Simply Vic you also are welcome to share banter no matter how wrong you are.

13.) 07 Sep 2014
Good post there vida at number 13

We are all avid Newcastle united supporters and we all want the best for our beloved club, we have different opinions, banter and views that we like to share on this page and that's welcome. Respect everyone's opinions. This is what the page is for, and art, vida and Vic need to stop throwing the insults and start having a proper football debate

14.) 07 Sep 2014
JT forget the insults they only came one way and have been answered.
Problem is a lot of people still think we are or should be in the same class as
Arsenal FC
Chelsea FC
Manchester United
Liverpool FC
We as most know are not, it is about rebuilding a depleated yet finacialy sound club and dreaming and posting positive points (which most of your posts are) and what this page should be about. However some people have been going through this for a longer than when Ashley bought the club and historiacal comments are made by fools living in the past BUT they count for nothing as this person has ripped up any history and record books and experinced players that could have helped avoid the pitfalls this excuse for a man takes as everyday par for the course.

Newcastle United as a club from a football playing point of view is in poor health and we need leadership and someone who cares about the club and its loyal fans.

Dream post and lament as you like and understand not everyone has your point of view but do not call anyone on here a Mackem Troll and gob ****** or Lituanian (the person who wrote this could have a problem with this) he should be banned for his insult smade to anyone on here.

15.) 07 Sep 2014
We'll said Vida forget Vic or is it Thick
If he wants to be a pl. b that's his choice

Keep posting

16.) 08 Sep 2014
Vida/art: purely football debate with no insults this time. You say you heard a rumour, well, perhaps. Let's leave aside for a moment all talk of Ashley buying Rangers (Ed has shot that one down, I think). My question for you is a simple one. Why would he put players and manager on unusually long contracts if he's hoping to attract a buyer? Wouldn't it make more sense to give them shorter, extendable contracts, so that new owners could get rid of unwanted liabilities, and install their own boss? As a supplementary, don't you think that Ashley has been getting NUFC finances into order ever since he first arrived? Didn't he try to sell up five years ago? Did you put these obvious questions to your unnamed sources? It's just my opinion, of course - to which I am entitled - that Ashley would be mad to sell up while big profits are to be had. If I'm right, and I could be wrong, then all unfounded rumours of unnamed buyers, coming from unnamed sources, are just wishful pie in the sky.

17.) 08 Sep 2014
Vic you need glasses Who said what
about Ashley selling?

18.) 08 Sep 2014
Art: look up five posts and all will be revealed. Your mate vida said he got good info from a believable source. No glasses required. I don't place any reliance on his info, but that's just my opinion.

19.) 08 Sep 2014
Victor or what ever your name is This a Banter page man so your suggestion is we should run it past you before posting. Mad

There are people who know things and know a lot more than you. If it comes true so be it and I have seen some stupid comments on here but don't call prople Makems or anything else YOU have a habit of doing that if you don't like what they write

20.) 11 Sep 2014
IM A RANGERS FAN and Rangers could be a cashcow for ashley. With 50k season tickets sold that would make back any money he would invest and ED you say the only way ashley could lose his retail and the naming rights is if Rangers go into liquadation this is incorrect mate as if we go into ADMINISTRATION then both contracts would be ripped up losing ashley a lot of money in the process as the naiming rights alone are worth 4 million a season and Rangers merchandise is worth a hell of a lot more than that. So its in ahsleys best intrest to keep Rangers afloat. u say he is earning 30 million a season from Newcastle??/ and rangers could get no were near this?? again I don't agree as when in the spl the normal price for a season book at ibrox is about 550 quid so times that by 40 that gives you 22 million JUST ON SEASON BOOKS ALONE then he would have merchandise on top of that. AND FINALLY you say he would have to spend tens of millions to catch celtic lolol have you seen the state of celtic recently??

{Ed001's Note - Newcastle have a bigger stadium.....}

21.) 12 Sep 2014
52, 405 newcastle

51, 082 ibrox


Yeah ed lots more sets ey!!

{Ed001's Note - I am sorry is my being correct not to your liking? You are just proving how little you know about footie, the profit margin at Newcastle vastly outweighs anything he could get from Rangers, while they play in a no-entity of a league. Unless they leave the Scottish league, they will always be a poor relation to the Prem teams in England.}

22.) 12 Sep 2014
Your missing the point ED. You seem to think Rangers are small fry when if ran correctly there is a shed load of money to be made. And the amount he would have to spend on players up here would be nothing compared to what he has spent down there! And what have I said that shows I no nothing about football? Could you explain that to me?

{Ed001's Note - sorry did I say they were small fry? Or have you just got a chip on your shoulder about the fact that a club the size of Newcastle, playing in the most watched league in the world, makes massive amounts of money compared to a big club playing in what has become a minor league?
Spending on players is irrelevant, if you actually understood football, as you would see that Newcastle can turn a profit on player sales.}

23.) 12 Sep 2014
Ed/Ross: Ashley's a multi-billionaire and a big poker player. Could he have in mind a move (eventually) to take Rangers out of SPL and into England? Big dosh longterm for small outlay now?

{Ed007's Note - No.}